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re: Am I reading this right? They want to take down the Claiborne expressway??
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:31 am to TheHarahanian
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:31 am to TheHarahanian
I am no fan of ugly elevated expressways. I hate them, in fact. But this boneheaded idea would cripple the port, and make going east difficult for people coming from downtown and the westbank.
Btw, when the thing was built, it had a designated 40 year life span. We are now getting close to 60. It is going to come down eventually, whether it is removed, replaced, or it falls on somebody's head.
Btw, when the thing was built, it had a designated 40 year life span. We are now getting close to 60. It is going to come down eventually, whether it is removed, replaced, or it falls on somebody's head.
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:32 am to brewhan davey
Maybe this is why the big money in the city is getting behind it. Gentrification in the 7th ward?
Lots of near quarter potential for business.
If we had better public transport it would work. Everyone points to San fransico doing away with that expressway. But they have trains, light rail, cable cars, street cars and the BART.
Lots of near quarter potential for business.
If we had better public transport it would work. Everyone points to San fransico doing away with that expressway. But they have trains, light rail, cable cars, street cars and the BART.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:34 am to brewhan davey
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Getting rid of the expressway would just result in gentrification of the surrounding neighborhoods, and then all of the same people clamoring for this to happen would complain for another reason.
Bingo. This will gentrify the neighborhood even more, push hospitality workers and renters to the East, and make their public transit commute longer.
Then they’ll wonder how it all happened.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:34 am to whichyalnoaboutseven
So next is I-49 through shreveport
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:37 am to ColonelRed
Extend I-510 through Chalmette to the Westbank and then CCC. Boom port problem solved.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Federal funding to eliminate a racist road. Seriously.
How the hell is a road racist? I don't get it.
Biden is one weird bird.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:42 am to fr33manator
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fr33manator
You forgot frick OweO.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:42 am to Tempratt
"Because they built it over the black area and not the white area on the river"
What people who say that don't know is that the plan wasn't one or the other. It was for both. Nixon's traffic secretary canceled the riverfront after the quarter was deemed Historic.
The argument was the corridor on Claiborne was nearly as historic.
What people who say that don't know is that the plan wasn't one or the other. It was for both. Nixon's traffic secretary canceled the riverfront after the quarter was deemed Historic.
The argument was the corridor on Claiborne was nearly as historic.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:42 am to Fat Harry
This needs to be done. The travel time from Algiers to the East is insane.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:49 am to Slippy
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But this boneheaded idea would cripple the port, and make going east difficult for people coming from downtown and the westbank.
Ponchartrain Expressway to 610 going east (which would now be I-10). They would have to build a new ramp for that. There's actually plenty of room in the area to build a flyover.
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Btw, when the thing was built, it had a designated 40 year life span. We are now getting close to 60. It is going to come down eventually, whether it is removed, replaced, or it falls on somebody's head.
Yup. I think the Claiborne elevated has lived its' useful life. Traffic is pretty bad most days (especially the horrible ramp from 10 west to the westbank). So we need to start thinking of something.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:51 am to Fat Harry
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Extend I-510 through Chalmette to the Westbank and then CCC. Boom port problem solved.
30-40 years ago, the locals in St Bernard would have fought this tooth and nail. But I think today is different, and such a plan would be welcomed, as it would open up new areas and bring in new businesses / customers.
St B people used to enjoy living on an island of sorts... now they are looking for more economic opportunity.
Especially with the proposed new container port in Violet. An extended 510 combined with a Florida Ave Expressway down to the new port site, would be huge.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:03 am to whichyalnoaboutseven
UMC is the only Level 1 trauma center in metro NOLA. If the Democrats get their way, they will cut off highway access to it, which will delay emergency care and peope will die. Someone gets in a bad wreck on the High Rise or catches a bullet in Little Woods, the plan is to drive 30 blocks down N. Broad and 10 blocks down Tulane? Or is the plan to go around (I10 to 610 to I10 to Tulane Ave. and then 10 or so blocks)? All this to expedite the gentrification of the city. Okay.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:03 am to 92Tiger
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UMC is the only Level 1 trauma center in metro NOLA. If the Democrats get their way, they will cut off highway access to it, which will delay emergency care and peope will die
Not the people that live in the immediate area. They get to hog those resources. To hell with anyone that needs an trauma center coming from the east.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:10 am to Napoleon
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the 1950s the design was for a loop with an expressway on the river, a highway over Elysian fields and a highway over Claiborne with the Pontchartrain expressway to be built over the canal that was being filled in.
Wasn’t the tunnel that collapsed near Harrahs supposed to fit into this design somehow?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:12 am to whichyalnoaboutseven
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readying
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:13 am to supadave3
Thar Riverfront Expressway would have been a disaster. It would have destroyed the ambiance of the French Quarter. Even its proponents (including Moon Landrieu) later admitted it was a bad idea.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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A surface highway will divide neighborhoods more than a raised highway. What is wrong with these people?
Exactly. Or more deaths when Quanichia decides to cross the busy roadway to visit Tremphalia on the other side.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:26 am to supadave3
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Wasn’t the tunnel that collapsed near Harrahs supposed to fit into this design somehow?
The riverfront elevated was supposed to go under the Pontchartrain Expressway at the CCC and loop around to join it (from memory - might have it all wrong). So the tunnel was part of that plan.
It’s a 6-lane wide tunnel under a city that’s under sea level.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:29 am to TheHarahanian
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It’s a 6-lane wide tunnel under a city that’s under sea level.
and one that can't seem to keep its surface streets from flooding in a moderate rainfall.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:37 am to Napoleon
a random fun fact is the tunnel that runs under Harrahs, I believe a large portion of it has been made into a parking garage
*damn, I see I'm a few minutes late to the party
There is also an abandoned cold war era bunker in the West End
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There's another tunnel in town, and it's in an unexpected place: beneath Harrah's Casino in downtown New Orleans. It's closed off to the public today, but it was originally designed to usher six lanes of high-speed interstate traffic between all points east and the West Bank.
The little-known chamber is a relic of an era of transportation modernization advocated by Mayor deLesseps "Chep" Morrison after World War II.
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So tasked, architects at the firm Curtis and Davis designed a two-level basement beneath the Rivergate's main exhibition area, with the lower level for storage and the upper for mechanical equipment.
Under the Rivergate's breezeway and concourse, the two basements would become one, forming a 20-foot-high flat-ceiling "box culvert" with three lanes of traffic in each direction and a total combined width of 98 feet.
*damn, I see I'm a few minutes late to the party
There is also an abandoned cold war era bunker in the West End
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:39 am
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