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re: Am I reading this right? They want to take down the Claiborne expressway??

Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:12 pm to
Why don’t they just rename it the Mark Essex freeway?
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Most businesses would find it difficult to relocate somewhere else without financial assistance. Especially if their access to capital was limited


Even a thriving one? Excuse my sarcasm but if they were bought out under eminent domain they would have had access to capital and banks. It's bs this angle.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:16 pm to
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NOLA doesn’t have basements for a reason. Bodies are interred above ground for a reason.


Neither of these are what you think.

Tunnels in Harvey and Belle Chasse have no real issues.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 6:22 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:58 pm to
One of my aunts had a basement, and she lived right on Bayou St. John.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 7:25 pm to
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:41 pm to
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Like someone said, Claiborne will come down eventually, whether it is condemned or just falls. It will destroy the culture of underneath the overpass that has developed for the last 60 years.


And 50 years after that, the narrative will be how bad it was for the community to tear down the I-10 overpass.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:44 pm to
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One of my aunts had a basement,


They are more common than I realized.

The above ground burial is something else all together.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:46 pm to
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And 50 years after that, the narrative will be how bad it was for the community to tear down the I-10 overpass.


Yep. No one thought routing a futuristic transportation method would be a bad thing. Have seen plenty of depictions of thriving social and business activities from what everyone thought would happen in these areas.


Look to the westbank to see that under Claiborne is a much more social area than even white people would have.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:54 pm to
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This is why people don't take shite like this seriously. Traumatic?? Your "elders" probably looked at the overpass and said "frick that road" then moved on with their lives because they weren't giant pussies and now you're claiming they were traumatized.

Give me a break.



This is what's crazy. It was built in the 60s. But nothing else traumatic has happened since then or you couldnt just move if you hated it that much.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:56 pm to
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One of my aunts had a basement, and she lived right on Bayou St. John.


I seriously doubt this.

She may have just called it a basement.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:58 pm to
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But nothing else traumatic has happened since then or you couldnt just move if you hated it that much.


Most don't think twice about it. The same type of group saving them by sending the highway that way is trying to save them from removing the highway now.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:48 am to
As I posted in the first thread about this, anyone who lives here and drives on that bridge will tell you it is heavily traveled by AAs going to and from the westbank. They will scream bloody murder if the bridge is removed and they have to sit at red lights to get to the CCC.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:49 am to
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take down the Claiborne expressway


Would result in world peace.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48193 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:00 am to
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Extend I-510 through Chalmette to the Westbank and then CCC. Boom port problem solved.

no

that would divide Chalmette in two at Paris Road

i could be okay with a bridge where the ferry is but as long as the approach to it doesn't go past St. Bernard Highway. Honestly i don't even know if you could build such a MS River Bridge the right height with limited distance to approach it
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:14 am to
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thriving black business district

Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2482 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:56 am to
Take down the expressway and getting in/out of Tiger Stadium will look like excellence in traffic engineering compared to delays with the loss of 3-4 Superdome exits on Saints game days.
Posted by lplgtigers
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2021
8 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:19 am to
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Neither of these are what you think.

Tunnels in Harvey and Belle Chasse have no real issues.
That's not true. Both of those tunnels leak all the time. Belle Chasse tunnel has to closed constantly for repairs.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by lplgtigers
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2021
8 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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One of my aunts had a basement, and she lived right on Bayou St. John.
Was it actually a basement? Like underground? lots od NOLA homes have "basements" but they are only partially underground, if not completely above ground, and they are really there to raise the home.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2069 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:31 am to
The only justifiable argument for an elevated overpass/highway damaging local neighborhoods could be accessibility towards local businesses there. Or killing off impulse stopping (a grounded highway equals out more opportunities to just swing into a location and check it out).

But i'm stretching it.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:34 am to
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Was it actually a basement? Like underground? lots od NOLA homes have "basements" but they are only partially underground, if not completely above ground, and they are really there to raise the home.


No, it wasn't completely underground, but the floor was definitely "below grade." That is, I think, the technical definition of a basement. (And I think your description about "really being there to raise the home" is accurate.)

Even in Atlanta, you see basements like this (and I think you are supposed to exclude their square footage from the overall number for the house). Basements that are completely below grade, to the point that even the ceiling is beneath ground level, are probably the exception.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:35 am
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