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Let us say the south would secede from the union

Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:13 am
Posted by TotalPotato
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2018
151 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:13 am
Not advocating secession under any circumstances, but suppose the south would secede from the union...
(1) Which city would you like to have as its capital?
Logically Texas would be the wealthiest state, so Austin would be the capital.

(2) Logically, Houston and Dallas would be its biggest cities. The New York of the CSA.

(3) What kind of a constitution?
Would it be parliamentary like the UK, France, Germany or presidential like the US.

(4) Who would be its George Washington?
Trump or someone from the past like Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee.

(5) What would be the bill of rights?
-- Pretty sure abortion would be banned
-- Pretty sure all immigration would be banned
-- Pretty sure all forms of weaponry would be allowed, automatics, bazookas, even armored vehicles and tanks.

(6) What would happen to minorities?
-- Would minorities be granted citizenship
-- Would there be a mass exodus of minorities to the US.

(7) What would be the souths relationship with the rest of the country?
-- Would they be at war or would there be friendly relationship like between the US and Canada.

(8) Mexico would share a large border with the South. What would be Mexico's relationship with the new country. I suspect they will build a wall to keep the guns and militias out.

(9) What would happen the nuclear facilities?
Will they go to the US or will the south become a nuclear power ( scary! ).

(10) Would it be as prosperous like the US or would it more like a Latin American country in the lines of Argentina, Brazil, Chile
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:18 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26911 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:15 am to
(6) What would happen to minorities?
-- Would minorities be granted citizenship

Why would you ask this?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106912 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:20 am to
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(6) What would happen to minorities?
-- Would minorities be granted citizenship
-- Would there be a mass exodus of minorities to the US.


The same thing that would happen to every race, those who are productive citizens can stay and those who want to be welfare deadbeats can gtfo to the USSA. That's a lot of white people who will be moving out and I say good riddance.


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TotalPotato


Username checks out.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14369 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:23 am to
the rural or non-big cities would secede from the cities
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9252 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:24 am to
Fbi dream questionnaire? Why not ask all the feelers in one setting, so as to sound better during prosecutions?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56842 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:24 am to
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Not advocating secession under any circumstances


Why not? There is no unifying the citizens of this country, with the ghouls currently running the country. There is no middle ground. So we either forcefully take back our country from the creatures on the left, or we break away and form a better union, free of the totalitarian and communist tendencies of the hyper left.

They stole an election, why do we insist on playing nice, or "by the rules"?
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28093 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:25 am to
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Why would you ask this?



You think he's remotely serious?
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10769 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:25 am to
The national treasury would be in Tupelo, Mississippi and we’d put Hank Williams picture on 100-dollar bills.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17666 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:26 am to
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(7) What would be the souths relationship with the rest of the country?
-- Would they be at war or would there be friendly relationship like between the US and Canada.


Why don’t you ask Lincoln his opinion about “peaceful” secession and get back to us.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106912 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:26 am to
There would need to be mass migration based on political beliefs with any split. Does no good if the cities remain highly liberal with conservative rural areas in either new country. We would go from one fricked up country to two fricked up countries.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8454 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:28 am to
let's qualify your subject.
Under current conditions, conservative states would not be seceding from the Union, as currently defined, rather separating it's self from a despotic authoritarian socialistic government installed by parties, rather than sovereign individuals.
You should be asking who retains possession of the original copies of the US Constitution.

This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:30 am
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:28 am to
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Not advocating secession under any circumstances,


Why not?

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(2) Logically, Houston and Dallas would be its biggest cities. The New York of the CSA.


Depends on whether FL joins. If so, Miami would likely be the NY of the south.

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(3) What kind of a constitution?

Why not start with the same one that worked for almost 175 years? Make some minor adjustments and it's great. Three branches, checks and balances, some slight modifications.

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(4) Who would be its George Washington?

Whichever governor successfully does it first.

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(5) What would be the bill of rights?

Same as the one we are supposed to have now, but perhaps with some additional privacy protections (that's debatable).

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(6) What would happen to minorities?

They would prosper.

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(7) What would be the souths
relationship with the rest of the country?

Hopefully, we would be trading partners.

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(9) What would happen the nuclear facilities?

Assuming there was a negotiated Texit or something along those lines (which is remote in the extreme - DC will not tolerate secession peacefully) - we'd probably return some of the military assets and develop our own.

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(10) Would it be as prosperous like the US or would it more like a Latin American country in the lines of Argentina, Brazil, Chile


The US is prosperous because of traditional values, freedom, rights, and centuries of case law. It would be more successful than the states left behind, without a doubt. The states not seceding will turn into Detroit quickly.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:29 am
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10426 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:30 am to
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(6) What would happen to minorities? -- Would minorities be granted citizenship -- Would there be a mass exodus of minorities to the US.


You obviously know nothing about Texas. A lot of minorities love Texas and know they’re accepted in Texas.

Texas is one of the most diverse places in the US. Houston is the most diverse city in the US.

All Texans want are good hard working people.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56842 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:31 am to
quote:

(1) Which city would you like to have as its capital?
Logically Texas would be the wealthiest state, so Austin would be the capital.



Texas and Florida are becoming the new financial centers of this country. California and New York let radicalism chase that away.

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3) What kind of a constitution?
Would it be parliamentary like the UK, France, Germany or presidential like the US.


Our current constitution is fine, just strengthen it from any politician unilaterally making Executive orders. Also, impose strict term limits of 4 years, no politician is allowed to become a lobbyist for up to 10 years after the end of their term, stream line a path to citizenship for immigrating here the right way, but voting can't happen for 5-10 years after you are a full citizen. Clean up regulations, dismantle union contracts with government, and start fresh. If you want to join a union, go for it, but every state is a right to work state. The only investing/trading of stocks/bonds allowed by politicians are with assets currently owned up to 2 years prior to holding office. No new trading allowed while in office. All government workers are forced onto government healthcare/benefits programs. Any such changes to these programs, they themselves, must also suffer. For every dollar increase in spending, $2 must be cut elsewhere. Balanced budget amendment. All politicians must reside in their home state 70% of the year. Every facet of the federal government shall be subject to a full audit. Complete energy independence.

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(4) Who would be its George Washington?
Trump or someone from the past like Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee.


George Washington. We are basically kicking the communists out, so not much change other than to ensure communism/socialism never takes hold.

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(6) What would happen to minorities?
-- Would minorities be granted citizenship
-- Would there be a mass exodus of minorities to the US.


This is stupid. Minorities are already citizens. You sound like a dumbass.

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(7) What would be the souths relationship with the rest of the country?


Eventually every free state would petition to join the free south. I'd contend more states than not would unite against the Coastal liberal wastelands and Illinois/Minnesota.

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(8) Mexico would share a large border with the South. What would be Mexico's relationship with the new country. I suspect they will build a wall to keep the guns and militias out.


Again, your retardation is showing. We would have strong borders, but operate trade the same, but in a very America first fashion.

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(10) Would it be as prosperous like the US or would it more like a Latin American country in the lines of Argentina, Brazil, Chile


You tell me. Would a union led by states that currently have the highest national immigration to these states be more or less prosperous than states that are hemorrhaging citizens at historic high rates? Tampa and Florida is becoming the new wall street. Texas is becoming the new silicon valley. So what does the Communist states of America have to offer? Ultra high taxes and psychologically impaired citizenry who can't decide what gender they are each day?
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:42 am
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22719 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:31 am to
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Not advocating secession under any circumstances


Why not?

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What would happen with minorities?


Nothing. It’s not 1861. Hell, it’s not even 1961. If they want to move to the U.S., they are free to do so. They won’t even have to use the Underground Railroad!
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:34 am to
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Does no good if the cities remain highly liberal with conservative rural areas in either new country.


I’d wall them off from each other legally.

It makes no sense for the cities to create rules for the countryside, and vice versa.

Hopefully this would prevent the urban vs rural political battles you see today, where each side tries to club each other over the head, with their way of life.

This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:37 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77882 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:43 am to
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Why would you ask this?
Because he is a stupid leftist spoon-fed his opinions about the Right from sites like Huff and Puff post and MSNBC.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77882 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:44 am to
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 Pretty sure abortion would be banned
-- Pretty sure all immigration would be banned
-- Pretty sure all forms of weaponry would be allowed, automatics, bazookas, even armored vehicles and tanks
Nope, nope and nope.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21327 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:46 am to
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TotalPotato


Checks out.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45784 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:49 am to
quote:

(1) Which city would you like to have as its capital?
Logically Texas would be the wealthiest state, so Austin would be the capital.

(2) Logically, Houston and Dallas would be its biggest cities. The New York of the CSA.


So right back to where we are today? Liberal shitholes in control?
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