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Paging No Colors lumber advice
Posted on 2/28/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 7:13 pm
With the recent surges in pine lumber prices could Chinese tallow logs be used for utility lumber?
I have almost unlimited access to older trees with generally straight grain
Have considered purchasing a small mill for making 2x4s, 1x6s etc. For utility use around the farm making boards that could be used for deer stands, repairing barns, general use, etc.
I understand it may not be pine quality for actual home construction
Let’s say you have a properly milled and dried 1x6 tallow board. Many of the trees are older than some sawmill pine and seem just as if not more dense. I guess the main question is what would be the major difference from that board and a pine board milled and dried the exact same way?
Thank you
I have almost unlimited access to older trees with generally straight grain
Have considered purchasing a small mill for making 2x4s, 1x6s etc. For utility use around the farm making boards that could be used for deer stands, repairing barns, general use, etc.
I understand it may not be pine quality for actual home construction
Let’s say you have a properly milled and dried 1x6 tallow board. Many of the trees are older than some sawmill pine and seem just as if not more dense. I guess the main question is what would be the major difference from that board and a pine board milled and dried the exact same way?
Thank you
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:29 pm to texag7
Man that's a tough one. For the record, I've never seen Tallow run through a sawmill. I did a little reading on it before responding. And the best I can come up with is "Sure, why not?"
The biggest issue I think you would have is twisting. They don't seem to be known for growing in a straight grain pattern. So if you tried to use them for corral boards, they might dry too fast in the sun and twist off the posts.
If you have time, sticker stack the lumber and let it dry for a few months in a barn. With a breeze or a cheap box fan.
Then for outdoor use I would just go go with the old standby treatment of diesel fuel and brake fluid or motor oil. Paint it on and should make good corral board or barn siding.
I wouldn't cut it too thin. I would probably recommend no thinner than 5/4 to cut down on the twisting.
That's about all the advice I have. I'm as curious as you are. Post some pics if you do it.
Also, if you know someone with a sawmill, haul the trees to them first. And do a test run before you commit to buying a sawmill around this stuff. Good luck!
The biggest issue I think you would have is twisting. They don't seem to be known for growing in a straight grain pattern. So if you tried to use them for corral boards, they might dry too fast in the sun and twist off the posts.
If you have time, sticker stack the lumber and let it dry for a few months in a barn. With a breeze or a cheap box fan.
Then for outdoor use I would just go go with the old standby treatment of diesel fuel and brake fluid or motor oil. Paint it on and should make good corral board or barn siding.
I wouldn't cut it too thin. I would probably recommend no thinner than 5/4 to cut down on the twisting.
That's about all the advice I have. I'm as curious as you are. Post some pics if you do it.
Also, if you know someone with a sawmill, haul the trees to them first. And do a test run before you commit to buying a sawmill around this stuff. Good luck!
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:37 pm to texag7
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With the recent surges in pine lumber prices could Chinese tallow logs be used for utility lumber?
The issue isnt wood on the ground its mill capacity, there's tons of trees to cut
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:51 pm to No Colors
Thank you for the reply. I’ll attempt drying them out and get a few milled before I waste any money on a mill
Interested to see how they turn out as well. I’ve always been intrigued about Chinese tallow. I know they are invasive and most people dozer and burn them but I figure at some point they could be used for something. I know LSU researched them for a while on potential for making biofuels from their seeds
Interested to see how they turn out as well. I’ve always been intrigued about Chinese tallow. I know they are invasive and most people dozer and burn them but I figure at some point they could be used for something. I know LSU researched them for a while on potential for making biofuels from their seeds
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:56 pm to No Colors
No colors, where’s the nearest mill to liberty where I can get rough cut lumber? 2x8s or 10s for horse stalls.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:12 pm to 7flat
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No colors, where’s the nearest mill to liberty where I can get rough cut lumber? 2x8s or 10s for horse stalls.
We have 1x6s and 6/4 x 10s and 12s (basically 2x10s) rough at the sawmill. Stop by one day and I'll set you up. OB discount.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:47 pm to No Colors
Sounds good, I'm a ways out, still have to get the structure put up but I'll check with you after that. Thanks.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:33 pm to texag7
Pine is still cheap... before it is cut into lumber. No need to use inferior woods.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:49 am to texag7
Keep us posted.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 6:12 am to No Colors
I’ve seen these tool supplements (guides) that are attached to chains saws to cut boards from trees with. The attachment is very cheap. Try this before buying a mill.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:55 am to No Colors
Like you I can't find much in the way of material properties but I wouldn't hesitate to use it as a pine substitute. Grain isn't as straight but even a number 2 pine will twist to shite if you let it.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:42 pm to texag7
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With the recent surges in pine lumber prices could Chinese tallow logs be used for utility lumber?
a few months ago i would have laughed at you, but i took down a couple dozen chicken trees back behind my house and i'll be damned if the grain isnt tight as shite and straight as a line. i roughly hewed a few long pieces with my chainsaw and it dried up really nice, hard as a rock
Posted on 3/1/21 at 6:24 pm to yattan
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I’ve seen these tool supplements (guides) that are attached to chains saws to cut boards from trees with. The attachment is very cheap. Try this before buying a mill.
Alaskan saw mill. Look them up on Amazon. Really affordable but you need a quality chainsaw for that.
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