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re: On rewatch, Jurassic World is not a good movie
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:48 am to Muthsera
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:48 am to Muthsera
quote:Completely agree.
Who fricking cares if she was a hero or not. If a pterodactyl wants to eat you, you're getting fricking eaten - sinner or saint.
This also goes back to where the movie doesn’t know its own identity.
It will give a “horror” type scene where people are mauled (the right people via “morality”), but then reverts to this “can’t show people dying” mentality when the pterodactyls attack all of the Park guests.
Stuff like that bothers me.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:52 am
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:01 am to Muthsera
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When did live dinosaurs become the fricking morality police? They are agents of chaos who should wantonly kill innocent people constantly for food or to protect their territory. That's what wild animals do.
Agree completely. Not only does it make more logical sense that dinosaurs would just kill randomly for food, but it also makes for higher stakes in the movie when anybody can get attacked at any time.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:13 am to CocomoLSU
These movies should go the way of GOT. Get you to like a character then CHOMP he gone!
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:18 am to Muthsera
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Another crazy talking point that I've seen all over the internet that exhibits a massive failing of the series as a whole.
When did live dinosaurs become the fricking morality police? They are agents of chaos who should wantonly kill innocent people constantly for food or to protect their territory. That's what wild animals do.
Her death is just way over the top. Plenty of good people I’m sure were killed by Indominous and the other dinosaurs during the film.... but this just took it way too far.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:23 am to CocomoLSU
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I will say though, in JP3...I get why people hate the talking raptor, but that was a dream. That was kinda the whole point...it's supposed to be weird when the raptor says his name, because he's asleep and dreaming. And the movies portray raptors as having pretty high-functioning brain activity. They are super smart. So they can communicate (which we saw in the first one anyway) and figure things out. So it makes sense that if they are only trying to protect their egg, they would peace out after getting it back. Sure, it's kinda silly, but it at least makes some sense. Same with the raptor that tried to climb the door when Alan was trapped behind it...it saw a problem and figured out a solution.
The dumbest part is Grant’s assistant stealing the fricking eggs saying he did it with “the best intentions” which Grant takes him seriously on. Oh what best intentions? You severely risking our lives so you can sell them off on the black market for a few million dollars? Just imagine that playing out in court where you steal some plutonium from a lab somewhere saying you did it “with the best intentions”.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:51 am to Tiger Prawn
Well the first movie is the only actual good one in the franchise. I love Jurassic Park and the movies but 2-5 are not good movies.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:01 am to Scruffy
It was an update to the dinosaurs as software from the book that the first movie dropped.
Then they added in Resident Evil with Indominus Rex as Nemesis, the Rex as Mr X, and the raptors as Hunters.
It only doesn't work right narratively because they never meshed the realism of misused science Crichton went for and over shot the Resident Evil addin with a bit too much cartoon.
Then they added in Resident Evil with Indominus Rex as Nemesis, the Rex as Mr X, and the raptors as Hunters.
It only doesn't work right narratively because they never meshed the realism of misused science Crichton went for and over shot the Resident Evil addin with a bit too much cartoon.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:09 am to ZappBrannigan
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It only doesn't work right narratively because they never meshed the realism of misused science Crichton went for and over shot the Resident Evil addin with a bit too much cartoon.
I disagree. The reason it doesn't work is because it took a whole lot of really stupid choices to get any of the narrative to happen. Like mind numbingly, no way in hell any person would make this choice, stupid decisions. And not just one of them.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:10 am to Scruffy
Jurassic World is a bad movie, but it’s sorta a fun bad.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:11 am to Tiger Prawn
They veered too wildly from the Lost World novel where Sorna was a doomed ecosystem and only hanging on because a prion disease was keeping things kind of in order while the raptors were constantly killing each other as juveniles because no adults lived long enough to raise them into a true pack predator.
Movie Sorna was a near paradise where the dinosaurs flourished as nature intended so the raptors claiming their children was supposed to be some sorta green aesop that whiffed.
Movie Sorna was a near paradise where the dinosaurs flourished as nature intended so the raptors claiming their children was supposed to be some sorta green aesop that whiffed.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:17 am to LNCHBOX
Well like I said too much cartoon. The raptors are flashy resident evil. But if any government really wanted weaponized animals they would go for the compys implanted with the deficiency of whatever crop the target had. And then release the lizard murderlocusts (with cobra venom) as giant cheap, frick you.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:18 am to OMLandshark
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The dumbest part is Grant’s assistant stealing the fricking eggs saying he did it with “the best intentions” which Grant takes him seriously on. Oh what best intentions? You severely risking our lives so you can sell them off on the black market for a few million dollars? Just imagine that playing out in court where you steal some plutonium from a lab somewhere saying you did it “with the best intentions”.
I mean, he admitted it was for the money so that they could fund their digs and not have to worry about finding money for them, right?
All in all, it seems like a reasonable enough idea for stealing something as valuable as a raptor egg. Plus, I seriously doubt that he thought the raptors would hunt them down trying to retrieve it.
I don't know, it made sense to me, at least within the framework of the movie.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:22 am to LNCHBOX
quote:This is a huge issue with a multitude of current movies.
The reason it doesn't work is because it took a whole lot of really stupid choices to get any of the narrative to happen. Like mind numbingly, no way in hell any person would make this choice, stupid decisions. And not just one of them.
The plot in JW isn’t what drives the character’s actions.
The character’s HAVE TO act moronically for the plot to work.
In the original movie, a single choice by Newman drives the story. It isn’t as if the action was inherently wrong. He had his reasons (greed and anger at his employer), his act just spun out of control.
Other people don’t make terrible decisions in that movie. They all act semi-intelligently.
You could maybe make the argument that the rebooting of the system was a poor decision, but they actually argued for and against it and went through the possible negatives.
In Jurassic World, everyone makes poor decisions because those decisions are required to drive the plot.
1. No one thinks to check the tracking device before going into the cage, something that no one in their right mind would ever do.
2. No one would see the raptors almost eating Pratt and think “we should let these out and use them in battle”.
3. Lets have the CEO of the company fly the helicopter to shoot the dinosaur, even though he doesn’t have his full license and it has already been implied that he is a poor pilot.
These very bad choices have to occur in order to drive the plot and it is annoyingly stupid.
And each of those decisions makes everything significantly worse.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:22 am to CocomoLSU
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I mean, he admitted it was for the money so that they could fund their digs and not have to worry about finding money for them, right?
So? Most people who steal shite do invest in their hobbies and career once they sell it.
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All in all, it seems like a reasonable enough idea for stealing something as valuable as a raptor egg. Plus, I seriously doubt that he thought the raptors would hunt them down trying to retrieve it.
OK, go steal a bear cub sometime and try fleeing from the mama bear on foot to sell it on the black market and see how that works out for you. That’s pretty much exactly what this idiot did.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:29 am to Jack Ruby
She's a pretty good actor and evidently quite good at helping new actors get into their characters as a director.
That having been said her character was the drizzling poo in the JW movies.
That having been said her character was the drizzling poo in the JW movies.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:43 am to Scruffy
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Jurassic World is not a good movie
Posted on 2/9/21 at 12:04 pm to OMLandshark
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So? Most people who steal shite do invest in their hobbies and career once they sell it.
Right, so you do agree that it was at least a reasonable motive to take the egg then.
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OK, go steal a bear cub sometime and try fleeing from the mama bear on foot to sell it on the black market and see how that works out for you. That’s pretty much exactly what this idiot did.
No it's not. Go steal a bird egg and see if that bird hunts you down and tries to get the egg back.
You suck at analogies.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 12:11 pm to CocomoLSU
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Right, so you do agree that it was at least a reasonable motive to take the egg then.
Ummm, no. This is like when idiots like AOC defend people looting and shooting up pawn shops, except this time you’re trying to outrun a creature that can run 50 miles an hour and probably track you pretty well.
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No it's not. Go steal a bird egg and see if that bird hunts you down and tries to get the egg back.
If that bird sees me taking the eggs and knows I’ve done it and is capable of tracking me, then it’s probably going to frick me up.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 12:52 pm to Scruffy
It was not good. But the final fight between the og trex and the new Dino was pretty dope and brought back some nostalgia. I think that went a long way with people and inflated people’s initial reaction.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:03 pm to CocomoLSU
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Go steal a bird egg and see if that bird hunts you down and tries to get the egg back
unless it's a mocking bird
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