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re: Who Killed Ashli Babbitt?

Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:07 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:07 am to
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They were still fairly close.


Okay. So...?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:07 am to
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2-3 minutes before she tried to climb through the window.


Whoa. 2-3 minutes? She was clearly an imminent threat being within 2-3 minutes of some unnamed and unspecified person.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:07 am to
Why not? Any other police shooting we know the cops name.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59084 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:08 am to
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I don’t think the LEO who shot her should be doxxed. And I don’t see that as different.


Isn't every other LEO who shoots and kills (or kneels and kills) criminals though?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:08 am to
And that’s bad policy. I do think the double standard is obvious.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:09 am to
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Really? I am sorry I didn't know a small arse woman was a danger to someone who was in the room previously..forgive me

By herself she probably wasn't much of a threat, but her combined with the dozens of people that were following her was definitely a threat.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:09 am to
Indeed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:11 am to
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By herself she probably wasn't much of a threat, but her combined with the dozens of people that were following her was definitely a threat.


If you were honest with yourself, you would be able to see your double standard in the above quote. I think you’re too far gone, however.
Posted by Rogers Hog
Member since Dec 2010
335 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:20 am to
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Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.


It would be pretty incredulous to believe that secret service or capital police would not be able to subdue a subject as small as she was without shooting her. they were able to capture and hold John hinkley and he was firing a weapon at the president and others in the area.
I will also point out there was at least 5 armor clad officers carrying weapons right behind her that did nothing until after she was shot.
Do you believe if there were legitimate fear of her they wouldn’t have ordered those armed cops to pull her back out of the window or take her down?


ETA: I will admit that most likely this group of citizens were under the impression that the same rules of engagement would be in force as were the normal throughout the summer and fall for the other protesters.
it was a shame that they were mistaken as there needed to be some sort of red flag event to keep the public from at least debating the merits of the republicans arguments.

This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 6:28 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10961 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:21 am to
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No. They didn’t. One cop did. The other cops were milling around, not really sure of what they were doing.
It wasn't one cop. It's right there caught on camera where we see many guns draw.

And they choose this location (choke point) with full knowledge that they were not letting anyone simply storm past here. It was this group's line in the sand and natural selection simply took over.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111611 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:23 am to
The Left’s demonization of this woman is amazing. She is a complete analogue for a Black Lives Matter protester (just on the complete opposite side of the political spectrum). And they hate her and find easy justifications for her death. Some went as far as cheering her demise.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111611 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:24 am to
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It wasn't one cop.


Oh, thanks. I didn’t know multiple cops shot her. I’m learning a lot.

quote:

It was this group's line in the sand and natural selection simply took over.


“Natural selection” isn’t a justification for a police shoot. Be better.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 6:25 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:26 am to
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What member of Congress was she trying to attack? I assume they were within feet of her but I haven’t heard their name. Thanks for clearing this up.
This video shows James McGovern passing through moments before.

LINK
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:27 am to
Wrong ethnicity
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:29 am to
Crazy isn't it?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10961 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:35 am to
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Oh, thanks
your welcome

(Since you want to play pretend)


These guys were acting in unison, they had retreated, dropped back, and reformed a wall of resistance. And there was no need wasting another shot because they were all in need of another clip or two. And yes you're correct that cop needs his name known. And given a Presidential medal for his action to protect the nation and it's Congressmen. And yes, I'm sure it'll come out when some Kracken defense team want's to file a frivolous lawsuit.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 6:37 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111611 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:35 am to
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This video shows James McGovern passing through moments before.


New standard for police shootings: Important people are close by. Fire at will.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111611 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:36 am to
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These guys were acting in unison, they had retreated, dropped back, and reformed a wall of resistance.


You’re making things up now.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10961 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:37 am to
on camera
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:41 am to
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New standard for police shootings: Important people are close by. Fire at will.

Important people close by and the first person that breaks through a defensive choke point with dozens more following... Yeah, I'm ok with a standard that allows you to take out the first person.
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