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re: Who Killed Ashli Babbitt?

Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:03 am to
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8000 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:03 am to
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JudgeHolden


You'd be very concerned if this was a black woman.

You're racist and hate whites.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31501 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:07 am to
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You guys screaming hypocrisy don't even see your own. If she was black you'd be totally fine with it.


You talking to me?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65113 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:15 am to
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If you advance on a cop pointing a gun at you telling you to stop, it's on you.


That's not what happened. Granted, it's difficult to make out what was said or not said on the video due to the commotion, but from what we've seen, there was no attempt by the police to stop this woman (either verbally or physically) before she jumped the barricade.

But generally I agree with you. If you advance on a cop who has his/her gun drawn and they are telling you to stop and you continue to advance on them - you're asking for trouble and deserve what happens to you.

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You guys screaming hypocrisy don't even see your own. If she was black you'd be totally fine with it.



Depends on the circumstances of the shoot.

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If you advance on a cop in a threatening manner or you're shot by disobeying orders in the midst of a crime and they give you ample warning, sorry not sorry.


Once again...there's no evidence of this in this particular case.

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People keep saying well the other cops didn't seem concerned.


Not only were they not concerned, they moved out of the way and allowed the rioters to attempt to break through the barricade.

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Bottom line is she paid a price for breaking into the Capitol and disobeying an armed officer.


Once again...no evidence she disobeyed anyone and there is video of her being let into the building by Capitol police. She was one of the ones who entered in through the side door. So not only did she not break into the building, there is no evidence of her actually being told to cease and desist.

This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:17 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24747 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:16 am to
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If you advance on an officer pointing a gun at you and telling you to stop, you will be shot.

It’s not good. It is fact. You suck at debate.


You're a friggin idiot. I don't even have to desire to post a real rebuttal because you're too dumb to understand.

Posted by KickPuncher
Member since Jun 2020
754 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:20 am to
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So shooting unarmed people is good now?

Actually it is. If you are unarmed, it doesn't give the right to ignore any and every rule of the land. Actions have consequences and why test those waters against people who are armed? Don't go full ret@rd as they is be says.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34161 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:32 am to
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and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.


So comply...Is that what you are saying?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:34 am to
DEEP STATE IN CONTROL...
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8831 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:36 am to
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If you advance on an officer pointing a gun at you and telling you to stop, you will be shot. It’s not good. It is fact. You suck at debate


But but but why no warning shot, or pepper spray, taser, or whatever else left wingers usually say when an unarmed person is shot???

And why did the other officers not shoot anyone??
Yiur argument holds no water....

And on top of that she was shot though a door right?
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:38 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31501 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:38 am to
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You're a friggin idiot. I don't even have to desire to post a real rebuttal because you're too dumb to understand.


Sound policy.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:46 am to
quote:

JudgeHolden

Did you have the same mindset when they made public the officers' names in the George Floyd and Breonna Taylor cases?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:49 am to
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She was not armed and she was fricking murdered


She was told not to go through the broken window. She figured that because she's a woman she would get special treatment. She was wrong. Stupid games...

Unlike you, my position on these types of incidents is consistent. I don't care if it's BLM or antifa or QPatriots. When an officer is pointing a gun at you and giving you orders, it's best not to do the opposite of what they tell you.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:52 am to
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But but but why no warning shot, or pepper spray, taser, or whatever else left wingers usually say when an unarmed person is shot???

And why did the other officers not shoot anyone??
Yiur argument holds no water....

And on top of that she was shot though a door right?
They all pushed through pepper spray, cops with riot gear, and flash bangs before they got there.

The 3 cops trapped in front of the door were threatened by the mob and retreated.

She was shot hopping through a side window. Other rioters said that the police inside the hallway were begging for the crowd to stop or they would shoot.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10468 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:55 am to
The fact remains, she was killed because she was a white Trump supporter.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:56 am to
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The fact remains, she was killed because she was a white Trump supporter.


At some point, the Capitol building isn't going to be allowed to be overrun.

I sympathize with the people storming the Capitol, but it was the wrong time.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24747 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am to
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Did you have the same mindset when they made public the officers' names in the George Floyd and Breonna Taylor cases?


I was gonna go there in my response. Feels like he's trying to bait into the whole, "running at cops with guns" crap.

Context isn't his strong point.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37637 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:58 am to
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Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.


How about don't mix meth with fentanyl, pass counterfit bills, and fight with the cops when you get arrested.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24747 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:59 am to
quote:

They all pushed through pepper spray, cops with riot gear, and flash bangs before they got there.

The 3 cops trapped in front of the door were threatened by the mob and retreated.

She was shot hopping through a side window. Other rioters said that the police inside the hallway were begging for the crowd to stop or they would shoot.


Why didn't the cops get ordered to back off and the mayor offer a few city blocks for them to occupy?

Do we all see the bullshite we get fed yet?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:00 am to
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The fact remains, she was killed because she was a white Trump supporter.

You don't understand what this word means.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11983 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:00 am to
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If you advance on an officer pointing a gun at you and telling you to stop, you will be shot.

It’s not good. It is fact. You suck at deba

I agree, But!
Are you serious. How many black thugs have been shot, in that situation, that sparked national outrage by the media.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:02 am to
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Are you serious. How many black thugs have been shot, in that situation, that sparked national outrage by the media.
Are we discussing whether the shooting was justified or whether the media pushes certain narratives about shootings?

How about we stick to one topic
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