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re: Who Killed Ashli Babbitt?

Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:06 am to
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7047 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:06 am to
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So shooting unarmed people is good now?


only if they support trump
Posted by BoneSpurs
Member since Jan 2021
32 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:10 am to
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Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.


Ya think?
Posted by RaimondGPville
Body of Christ
Member since Nov 2020
341 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:26 am to
Shoot an insurrectionist breachung Capitol security in a mob intent on starting a revolution is a justified shooting.

Won't even be charges on that one. She shouldn't have jumped in the window.
Posted by RaimondGPville
Body of Christ
Member since Nov 2020
341 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:29 am to
They literally yelled out gun several times. Her fellow rioters tried to warn her but she wanted her voice heard (it was silenced forever)

I regret the loss of life but refuse to say she was murdered by that officer. That (as well as many of these other killings) was justified.

She had no business being in there.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:50 am to
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Jesus Christ.

Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.

Or

Continue to live in your paranoid world that someone is out to get you.


I have a cousin who spent 30 years in the FBI and when I asked him what he thought about Ashli Babbitt getting shot and was is a justified shooting and he was as adamant as could be when he said that everything that guy did was against the field manuals methods of using deadly force. He stated that the shooting was unjustified and the guy should face some charges.

I personally believe if you put yourself in those positions, you run the risk of something bad happening. I think she shares part of the blame but the shooting didn’t have to happen when it did. He still had time to wait and I don’t believe she heard or even saw him, based on the noise and the angle of where he was located and where she was located.
Posted by twilliam12
Member since Nov 2017
124 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:52 am to
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If you advance on an officer pointing a gun at you and telling you to stop, you will be shot.

What bothers me about this shooting is that if he/she that made the shot, missed, an officer would probably have been hit by friendly fire, very weirdly there were about 7 officers in the same room behind her..... if I were on a jury, justified shot because she was trying to breach a window and had a backpack on that the officer did not know what it contained, but as in so many other killings, I wish she would have had more sense and just complied with the officers behind her. Looked like she was having a good old time at a harmless protest, very sad probably was a good woman. May she RIP....
Posted by NeonSunburst
Member since Oct 2010
2798 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:54 am to
Whoever shot her had on cufflinks... I've said before and ill say it again, cops don't wear cufflinks. I believe it was a member of congress. Jmo.
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Jun 2015
538 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:58 am to
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What bothers me about this shooting is that if he/she that made the shot, missed, an officer would probably have been hit by friendly fire, very weirdly there were about 7 officers in the same room behind her..... if I were on a jury, justified shot because she was trying to breach a window and had a backpack on that the officer did not know what it contained, but as in so many other killings, I wish she would have had more sense and just complied with the officers behind her. Looked like she was having a good old time at a harmless protest, very sad probably was a good woman. May she RIP....


I initially thought that too about it possibly hitting another officer but the angle of the shot wasn't going to hit anything but the wall at probably a 45 degree angle if he missed.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:00 am to
WE WILL NEVER KNOW!

And it is an awful thing. GOD is watching.....
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:01 am to
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I've said before and ill say it again, cops don't wear cufflinks.


It’s been confirmed by multiple news outlets that it was a plainclothes Capitol police officer. The media knows the name.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
11984 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:02 am to
Let me see if I do leftist correctly: a gun killed her.

After that, crickets........
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:03 am to
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personally believe if you put yourself in those positions, you run the risk of something bad happening. I think she shares part of the blame but the shooting didn’t have to happen when it did.


Yes. The conflation of the two issues makes for messy arguments.

Was Ashli behaving irresponsibly and recklessly? Yes. Does she bear moral culpability for her fate? Yes.

That is a completely separate question from whether or not her shooting fit the use of force policy for Capitol Police. Someone posted that policy early on in this forum and it didn’t look like the shooting lined up especially well with policy.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:04 am
Posted by Tampa Tiger
Fl.
Member since Nov 2006
663 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:10 am to
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If you advance on an officer pointing a gun at you and telling you to stop, you will be shot.

It’s not good. It is fact. You suck at debate.



How stupid can you be?
Posted by NeonSunburst
Member since Oct 2010
2798 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:15 am to
Then the media needs to release the name like they do all police officer shootings.

Wasn't aware they know who he is.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26575 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:20 am to
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Ashli Babbitt


She good...
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37564 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:26 am to
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That is a completely separate question from whether or not her shooting fit the use of force policy for Capitol Police. Someone posted that policy early on in this forum and it didn’t look like the shooting lined up especially well with policy.


Any of these police shootings we have seen recently they have plastered the officers name and photo all over the media and demand some form of "justice". I am just wondering why this shooting is getting such disparate treatment by the media? I mean i know WHY but it is obvious this isn't getting covered for political reasons.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:27 am to
He is black so it’s being protected
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:27 am to
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Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.
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JudgeHolden
why dont you tell this to all the black people that bitch and moan about police brutality when the black person got shot because they were pointing a gun at the cops.

You are a racist ignorant piece of shite.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32176 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:31 am to
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Here’s a tip. Don’t storm the Capitol with a mob and advance on armed police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop.

Might want to pass that along to your fellow persons of color who refuse to do as policemen ask yet, once the gun goes off, the felon becomes the victim and the police officer is the criminal.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6785 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:34 am to
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


He could have shot her in the leg like Joe Biden suggested or have her talked down out of the window by a mental health expert. Just sayin'.
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