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re: Gary Taubes: ‘Obesity isn’t a calorie problem, it’s a hormone problem’
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:28 pm to Dandy Lion
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:28 pm to Dandy Lion
Keto is a good diet.
However, Asian cultures are carb heavy and they don’t have an obesity problem.
The problem is that we treat food as something we look forward to every day. Asian cultures treat food as just something you have to do every day.
However, Asian cultures are carb heavy and they don’t have an obesity problem.
The problem is that we treat food as something we look forward to every day. Asian cultures treat food as just something you have to do every day.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:35 pm to Dandy Lion
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This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 6:38 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:44 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Asian cultures treat food as just something you have to do every day.
I find eating to be an inconvenience.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:47 pm to Schmelly
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That’s a lot of words to be fricking wrong
The fatties are downvoting you
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:48 pm to Dandy Lion
Obesity is 100% a calorie problem. You eat 2000 a day and burn 2500 you will lose weight.
You eat 3,000 and burn 2500, you will gain weight.
The keto/Mediterranean/insert stupid diet here are all bull shite. You want to lose weight, you eat less than you burn.
Now whether eating a certain diet is beneficial for heart disease/cholesterol etc is a different story all together.
You eat 3,000 and burn 2500, you will gain weight.
The keto/Mediterranean/insert stupid diet here are all bull shite. You want to lose weight, you eat less than you burn.
Now whether eating a certain diet is beneficial for heart disease/cholesterol etc is a different story all together.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:59 pm to WaydownSouth
Western diets consist of a crap-ton of processed carbs and saturated fats. Want to lose weight, eat food, not some shite from a bag or a box.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:15 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Asian cultures treat food as just something you have to do every day.
Do you even Japanese?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:19 pm to Dandy Lion
The Root of the problem, and most of our problems is that we live in a dysfunctional society, that promotes stress and ignoring our emotions. Instead we cope with things like food, media, workaholism, drugs and alcohol,(often these things are heavenly advertised and sold to us, but that’s another tangent). The use of these coping mechanisms are trying to replace human connections, and things accomplish by human connection. The things we cope with almost work, but leave us wanting more, that’s why they’re addictive. The dysfunction is intergenerational, and cyclical, dysfunctional parenting creates dysfunctional kids.
These coping mechanisms are like drugs, and that’s why people like keto and fasting, because they put us in a category of abstainers and not moderators. It gives us a tool to be successful.
Gary Taubs has at least five other books saying the same thing.
There is no difference between exercise and eating for weight loss. Our bodies do not know we are fat, and it’s job is to maintain homeostasis which means that calorie deficit‘s or not normal. If you weigh 600 pounds your body literally tells you to maintain that weight.
fat is not the devil, sugar is not the devil. It’s highly palatable foods, like donuts and pizza which most people think are carb foods, but have just as many calories from fat as they do carbs.
These coping mechanisms are like drugs, and that’s why people like keto and fasting, because they put us in a category of abstainers and not moderators. It gives us a tool to be successful.
Gary Taubs has at least five other books saying the same thing.
There is no difference between exercise and eating for weight loss. Our bodies do not know we are fat, and it’s job is to maintain homeostasis which means that calorie deficit‘s or not normal. If you weigh 600 pounds your body literally tells you to maintain that weight.
fat is not the devil, sugar is not the devil. It’s highly palatable foods, like donuts and pizza which most people think are carb foods, but have just as many calories from fat as they do carbs.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:23 pm to Rust Cohle
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because they put us in a category of abstainers and not moderators
And this has been my consistent point to my friends trying to lose weight.
Eat what you want in moderation, count your calories, then earn the calories by exercising. Depriving yourself shite like ice cream or something else makes for a miserable existence. Unless you have the beetus or something that prevents you from eating what you want, earn it with exercise and eat less of it.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:30 pm to Junky
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In all the bullshite you spew on here, this is the worst take. Jesus, go cry a fricking river and eat a breadstick.
We have had this argument a million times, you can't prove shite and we have tons of studies showing that model is complete bullshite and overall calories then protein is what matters when things are equated.
We already know what you will say....well you eat less on keto which is bullshite to limp everyone into that. Sure many do but most fail on keto.
Those are all facts and you can no dispute them with anything but name calling and similar tactics.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:31 pm to Oates Mustache
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Eat what you want in moderation, count your calories, then earn the calories by exercising
my point is that most people are not able to moderate, because they are addicted to emotional eating. It’s like saying I know you’re a coke addict but you should have a little fun on the weekends and just get back to business during the week.
Eating disorders and sexual disorders are two of the only disorders that you have to continue the relationship to be functional in life. Something about a low-carb diet allows people to do that.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:35 pm to stlslick
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A lot of the problems are with preservatives.
Preservatives are horrible for the body.
You are correct.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:42 pm to Rust Cohle
quote:This is me. I don't do keto but I never had much success with moderation. I had to lay down some rules. And not just with food.
my point is that most people are not able to moderate
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:46 pm to Dandy Lion
So basically, don’t eat that many carbs and actually exercise and the Covid won’t get you? The Vid isn’t worried about your excuses, the hard part is actually doing something not knowing what to do.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:47 pm to CC
Are you denying the fact that if you eat 2000 calories regardless of the type of food and burn 2500 you will not lose weight?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:51 pm to Dandy Lion
Tl;dr. But from what I recall from reading into fasting etc.
Hormones significantly affect the calories out portion of the body's energy balance. A majority of calories burned come from your normal metabolic rate. The average resting metabolic rate is 1600 calories, and hormones have a significant effect on your rmb.
Hormones significantly affect the calories out portion of the body's energy balance. A majority of calories burned come from your normal metabolic rate. The average resting metabolic rate is 1600 calories, and hormones have a significant effect on your rmb.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:06 pm to Dandy Lion
Here is an MRI where you can see the hormones that have built up all over the female on the left.
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We have this fundamental belief system about obesity, that it’s caused by caloric imbalance or overeating. So the idea is that we’re taking in more calories than we’re expending, and so the cure is to eat less, and reduce our calorie intake. I think that’s biologically naive, and rather than being about calories, obesity is actually a hormonal regulatory defect. The conventional approaches don’t work because while we can sustain eating less for a while, eventually the hunger gets us because we’re semi-starving ourselves. So, wrong approach – and when it fails, we blame the patients for not sustaining it.
Lol at this.
Is it “biologically naive” that until the modern era nobody was as fat as we are now? Have our hormones changed in our genes collectively that quickly? Or is it because we have worse diets than the generations who came before us, and we are the most sedentary that humans have been in history?
Is it possible that eating McDonald’s for 20 years and not working out leads to hormone problems?
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:16 pm to RebelExpress38
Did you not read the OP?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:17 pm to Dandy Lion
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The author of The Case for Keto
Stopped reading here
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:26 pm to gthog61
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sounds like an excuse problem
I agree. Many people are slobs (eat shitty food) and are sedentary.
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