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Honest Discussion about Nielsen
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:47 am
With each passing day, it is looking more and more like he is O's guy.
Honestly, I don't hold his lack of play calling experience against him that much. I've posted a few times that it isn't as big of a deal as fans make it out to be.
My biggest hesitation is that O is a former DL coach and hiring a DL coach as DC. That means both your HC and your DC have the same specialty. That seems redundant to me. Especially with the poor linebacker and safety play last year.
Usually you hire for weaknesses.
I think the guy can really coach linemen! What he did with Bradley Chubb/NC State should be talked about more on here. Our DLine would be the strength of this program.
I might be talking myself into him here, but what are your thoughts?
Honestly, I don't hold his lack of play calling experience against him that much. I've posted a few times that it isn't as big of a deal as fans make it out to be.
My biggest hesitation is that O is a former DL coach and hiring a DL coach as DC. That means both your HC and your DC have the same specialty. That seems redundant to me. Especially with the poor linebacker and safety play last year.
Usually you hire for weaknesses.
I think the guy can really coach linemen! What he did with Bradley Chubb/NC State should be talked about more on here. Our DLine would be the strength of this program.
I might be talking myself into him here, but what are your thoughts?
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 11:20 am
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:52 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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My biggest hesitation is that O is a former DL coach and hiring a DL coach as DC. That means both your HC and your DC have the same specialty. That seems redundant to me. Especially with the poor linebacker and safety play last year.
We have room for another defensive coach - so we can get a LB coach and give safeties to Corey.
And the head coach shouldn't be a position coach. How often do you see that besides with the QB?
ETA:
I'm ok with the hire, but would really like if we get a LB coach as stated, especially one that has had any experience calling a defense or helping to call a defense. More minds in that room the better.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:54 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Nielsen, O, and Lacouture would have elite Dlineman coming to LSU. If Corey can go back to his recruiting of old and we get an elite recruiter at LB's coach to bring in top guys then I think I could call that defense into the top 25.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:03 am to IowaCityTigerFan
We've always had a DL coach with O as HC. It won't be anything new. Also, we essentially have two receivers coaches in Mangas and Joseph. It worked out pretty well when it was Joe Brady and Joseph.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:08 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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My biggest hesitation is that O is a former DL coach and hiring a DL coach as DC. That means both your HC and your DC have the same specialty. That seems redundant to me. Especially with the poor linebacker and safety play last year.
I keep seeing people post things along these lines, and I absolutely don't understand it. No matter what your head coach's "specialty" is, you have a position coach that coaches the same thing. The head coach isn't a position coach.
Saban was a DB as a player and a coach, as was Will Muschamp yet they coexisted on the same staff just fine. It's a non-issue.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:10 am to IowaCityTigerFan
The only way I like this hire is if he’s Co DC with Corey Raymond. Because be honest.. D-line coach what does he know about coverage? In today’s style you have to stop the pass first. I’d feel better if I knew his scheme. It’s really a win win to promote Raymond to co DC with nielson. You have a veteran DB specialist as a curtain and you give him a well deserved Promotion
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:22 am to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:
Honestly, I don't hold his lack of play calling experience against him that much.
He has called plays at least. Took a team to a conference championship as DC.
More than Peetz.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:30 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Nick Saban's specialty is defensive backs. He hired Kirby Smart, also a DB coach.
Pete Golding, also a DB coach (although he coaches LBs now)
You are concerned about something that is not an issue.
Pete Golding, also a DB coach (although he coaches LBs now)
You are concerned about something that is not an issue.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:40 am to IowaCityTigerFan
I kind of like it, because O can then focus more on what he does best. That’s motivate and recruit. With the transfer portal and the new transfer rule in general, it’s going to be more important than ever to be constantly re-recruiting your own players.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:48 am to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:
My biggest hesitation is that O is a former DL coach and hiring a DL coach as DC. That means both your HC and your DC have the same specialty. That seems redundant to me. Especially with the poor linebacker and safety play last year.
LSU was going to have a d line coach next year no matter what. Did you think they weren’t? In this case the DC will do d line and they will hire a LB coach.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:48 am to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:
Usually you hire for weaknesses.
You usually hire because the guy is the one you want.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:59 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Nielsen is fully capable of building our D-Line like nobody else in college football.
With his ability to teach fundamentals, and recruit, our D-Line would be virtually unblockable.
He definitely knows what he is doing, and the proof of that is the saints D-Line for the entire time he has been there.
Nielsen is the guy I personally want to see become our DC, and always was the guy I hope we hire. He isn't hired yet though as far as we know, and missing out on him would be a tremendous disappointment.
With his ability to teach fundamentals, and recruit, our D-Line would be virtually unblockable.
He definitely knows what he is doing, and the proof of that is the saints D-Line for the entire time he has been there.
Nielsen is the guy I personally want to see become our DC, and always was the guy I hope we hire. He isn't hired yet though as far as we know, and missing out on him would be a tremendous disappointment.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:16 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
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Our DLine would be the strength of this program.
2003 and 2007 say HI !
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:59 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
The game is won in the trenches. Great Dline play causes turnovers with fumbles and ints. 
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:57 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Not to mention what he’s done with Trey Hendrickson on the saints this year. The guy was a menace off the edge in a situational role this year. Sucks he’s out with the neck injury. David Onyemata too. So much development.
The saints DL is probably the best and deepest in the NFL. They are the engine that makes the team run. Well them and Kamara, who should win offensive player of the year in a landslide.
The saints DL is probably the best and deepest in the NFL. They are the engine that makes the team run. Well them and Kamara, who should win offensive player of the year in a landslide.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 6:26 am to IowaCityTigerFan
When you had Aranda, you had someone that both built and adjusted his defense to match what the other team did offensively. His defenses, when run correctly, dictated the match-up like most offenses do. My concern is this guy can’t do either. Where has he proven anything in a P5 environment? You cannot possibly tell me you will trust a guy that basically says “put your hand in the dirt and go”. That’s just dumb.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:03 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Raymond already proved he can coach S here at LSU. LB position is open. You get whoever you think is best available coach for DC. Position coaches are secondary and shouldn't dictate your DC. I'd rather have a nasty DL over any other position on D because they elevate the play of the LBs and secondary automatically.
They can also hire analyst who are actual coaches to fill whatever voids they might have on defense. They're fine.
They can also hire analyst who are actual coaches to fill whatever voids they might have on defense. They're fine.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 3:38 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:so we'll have an OC and a DC that have no coordinator experience.
Honestly, I don't hold his lack of play calling experience against him that much
Is this what O meant by hiring the best coordinators?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:22 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
You just hire a LB and S coach and let Nielsen coach the DL. Recruiting the DL with Nielsen and O is gonna be wild. You're going to know pretty quick if he can call a defense.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 5:14 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
If Nielsen can get the Front 4 to dominate the run & pressure the pass, like he has for 4 years with the Saints, then you can have mostly marginal players at LB/DB with only one or two standouts in the back-7, and have a dynamite defense, like the Saints have.
Think Auburn D 2019.
Think Auburn D 2019.
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