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Posted on 2/4/21 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by RC
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 3:28 pm to
I'm wondering what the board thinks I should do with my hydroponic tomato plant. It's a bush goliath plant that I started last fall. I harvested a decent number of tomatoes already, but it's still producing. Right now I have over a dozen green tomatoes on the plant, and it is still making new flowers. The thing is, this is a determinate variety and I thought they were supposed to produce all the fruit in a short span, then nothing.

Should I harvest the current crop when they're ready and then pull the plant, or keep it as long as it seems to be going strong? It takes up a lot of space, so I'd hate to not be able to utilize that space if the plant isn't likely to produce any more.



Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12755 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Should I harvest the current crop when they're ready and then pull the plant, or keep it as long as it seems to be going strong? It takes up a lot of space, so I'd hate to not be able to utilize that space if the plant isn't likely to produce any more.



Sometimes you get a freak tomato plant that produces like crazy, well beyond the norm. I had one back in college that was still producing in January. I lived further south and the fall was still pretty hot, up into the 80s most days, and the winters were pretty mild too. Felt kind of odd picking a fresh Tomato for a BLT the week of Christmas, but I just let it go until some frost finally got it. And this was just in a pot with some old potting soil, not hydro. Might as well see how long it goes.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 4:06 pm to
If it ain't broke...
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49035 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 4:46 pm to
It's not too late to go seeds is it?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:47 am to
No - first year in many I started something on time. I usually start mid february
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:49 am to
Save the seeds
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5523 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 8:55 am to
I've been really high on this Fred's Tie Dye variety from the dwarf tomato project over the last 3-4 seasons. I also like the large barred boar variety and of course cherokee purples.
Posted by street pizza
3 Highview Crescent, Coolaroo
Member since Dec 2010
1503 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:22 am to
Anyone notice the hard freeze we're supposed to get next Friday and Saturday?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14815 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:39 am to
Yep. I’ll be making preparations this weekend. I don’t have much time on weekdays thanks to it usually being dark when I get home (I hate this time of year). Gonna put my hot house back up and get all of the plants in there. Also going to set out the covers for my blackberry and strawberry boxes. Won’t cover them completely until the cold arrives, though. I’m sure they’ll be fine, but I may set up an incandescent light for them just to produce a little warmth. Looks like this will be a 3-4 day event. Then hopefully winter will be done after that.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:49 am to
Really the only thing I will be worried about will be my Ruby Red grapefruit tree. I'll cover and dig out a string of christmas lights from the attic.

The lemon tree I couldn't care less about, the apples will be fine, and if the satsuma dies it wouldn't be the end of the world. I screwed up and tried pruning when I first got it. I should have just let it go.

Everything else is in the store room with an electric heater on thermostat.

If power goes out though...
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14815 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:04 am to
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If power goes out though...


Bruh, why even bring that up?
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:15 am to
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If power goes out though


I have Genie on standby just in case. They can't run the whole house but they can run the lights. I have a Big Buddy heater ready and waiting as well.

Pillage, the strawberries should be able to handle the cold. I am worried about my peas though. I will be trying to cover them.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:45 am to
I guess I’ll have to pick the rest of my cauliflower. I planted 2 varieties - one 80 day, one 120 day
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:57 am to
I took Gary's advice last year for my first time growing seeds and regretted it.

I recommend spending more $$ and buying something that will put out more lux. I put a link earlier in this thread, $40 light on amazon. Might need a couple if you're growing more than like 12 plants.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Bruh, why even bring that up?


I like to harass my wife with things like that. Sometime it spills over into other parts of my life
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1512 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I took Gary's advice last year for my first time growing seeds and regretted it.



Why what happened? I've been using pretty cheap light $20-25 range for the last few years with good results
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:22 pm to
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Why what happened?

They worked in the beginning, but when the plants got to 5+ inches tall, they started looking bad. Took me forever to realize it was the lights.

I had to get a lightmeter to measure lux and light was only putting out 4k lux at most.

Maybe I had just gotten a bad brand, but it was advertised as grow light at home depot and it was very similar to what Gary had. Found it.

This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 3:26 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14815 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

4k lux


Yeah, I’d say at bare minimum you need 5k. But I’d shoot for much higher than that. Low light makes them leggy and harder to harden off. I have about 20k now, but I’m going to upgrade to that 40k next season.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Can you link those lights?


Finally found what I bought on Amazon.

One of the reviews said they got 18,000 lux @ 6 inches.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14815 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:15 pm to
I figured this would be a good spot to drop a little info on Lumens vs Lux. Just in case anyone is confused by the terminology.

Difference between Lumens and Lux

1 Lux = 1 Lumen per square meter
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