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re: If you needed a reason not to stand under a sling load
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to Ed Osteen
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to Ed Osteen
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that load falling is on the pilot?
Not necessarily, there are two types of hook releases, mechanical and electrical. The hook will be disassembled with manufacturers and probably the Feds present. The entire hook release electrical circuit on the helicopter will be gone through thoroughly and checked.
Important to note, the hook operator on that particular helicopter is seated backwards facing the hook and load behind the pilot in command. He has flight controls to maneuver the aircraft under the load to be lifted. If there is any loss of power from the engines where the safety of the aircraft is in jeopardy, that load is released immediately.
So, too early to point to a cause or lay blame at this point.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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That's going to be on the rigger. The pilot can't fly the chopper AND rig the load.
None of them will work for that company again.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to Traveler
hard to tell from the video, but looks like the sling pulled out of the rigging point. Did not see anything fly off as if a shackle pin had sheared, but I am not familiar with the attachments points on a helicopter like that.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Unless they have some kind of quick release mechanism that was triggered, that's in the rigging, not the pilot. It's not like he flew it into a building.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:17 pm to LegendInMyMind
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None of them will work for that company again.
If the pilot is found to not be at fault, why wouldn't he?
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:29 pm to MorbidTheClown
chump thought he had diplomatic immunity.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:33 pm to Traveler
I bet that flattened any curve.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:34 pm to CHEDBALLZ
as stated earlier their are 2 different methods to release the load. A button that electrically opens the hook to release the load and that is on the pilot's cyclic stick (the one between his legs) and a mechanical back up, usually foot actuated that will use a cable to manually pull on the hook release, dropping the load. Most of the ones Ive seen on the control stick are guarded, meaning that you have to raise a cover to hit the button to prevent accidentally hitting the pickle switch.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:38 pm to Traveler
I hope that’s covered under the warranty! Lol??????
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:46 pm to Traveler
Never stand in a load drop zone
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:57 pm to Traveler
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reason not to stand under a sling load
some folks call it a Kaiser load I calls it a sling load hmmm-mmmm.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:02 pm to Traveler
And I always thought helicopters weren't supposed to hover between buildings because getting caught in their own wake/updraft was dangerous.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:18 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:20 pm to OysterPoBoy
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If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.
my fishing lure tying philosophy.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:24 pm to LegendInMyMind
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LegendInMyMind
You're not leaving much to the imagination in terms of your IQ level ole boy
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:11 pm to Traveler
I managed a heli lift a number of years ago on a 26 story building down town BR. Had 2 lifts up and one lift down with some large fans.
Their lift coordinator on the roof with us said he would pick up the first ground lift and set on roof. Then take off the old fan then set new fan in its place. He warned not to get under lift. That in emergency pilot would release his load. First two picks went as planned. On setting the last pick pilot panicked and hit the release. Part of the rigging glanced the hard hat of one of my men. We got lucky.
And as to that lift. That is a Baltimore air coil (BAC) logo on the side of the equipment that was dropped. That is a cooling tower.
Their lift coordinator on the roof with us said he would pick up the first ground lift and set on roof. Then take off the old fan then set new fan in its place. He warned not to get under lift. That in emergency pilot would release his load. First two picks went as planned. On setting the last pick pilot panicked and hit the release. Part of the rigging glanced the hard hat of one of my men. We got lucky.
And as to that lift. That is a Baltimore air coil (BAC) logo on the side of the equipment that was dropped. That is a cooling tower.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:18 pm to Perrydawg
Pilot can release the load in a emergency. Load may have been heavier then he was told. Could have gotten a wind gust. Or had a mechanical alarm go off.
But look like pilot hit the emergency release
But look like pilot hit the emergency release
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:23 pm to Traveler
quote:I'm just wondering if the helicopter sticks around for a bit, or if he just kinda slowly sped away with a, "Welp, guess my job here is done" feel to it.
Helicopter pickles an AC unit on the street below.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:26 pm to Traveler
As someone without any kind of mechanical experience I always enjoy reading the comments in threads like these from people who have an understanding of what happened like "yes that explanation makes sense"
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:31 pm to arseinclarse
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Are cranes outlawed in California?
Probably too far into the roof area for a crane to reach. I’ve used them in New Orleans to fly items up and down-the World Trade Mart being one and setting the light poles along the I-310 at Airline and the bridge.
Used to be all old Vietnam pilots and they flew Vietnam era Sikorsky Chinooks.
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