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Has anyone else here ever created Water Hammer?

Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14576 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:17 pm
Not as fun as it sounds.
Changed out a water fill valve on a toilet and water hammer occurred after I turned on the water.
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Posted by hollowpoint
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 8:54 pm
Posted by choupic
Somewhere on da bayou
Member since Nov 2009
2024 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:20 pm to
That’s Operator life Baw
Posted by Texastiger43
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
315 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
Did it flood the bathroom?
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26955 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
I was just thinking about that the other day...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57528 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
Water hammer is awesome!
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
5019 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:06 pm to
How did you fix it
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55468 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
Never to the point of causing damage. It is always concerning when water is turned off for maintenance on lines. A couple years ago workers installing natural gas lines twice hit the water main and had to turn off the water to fix it. Both times when the water was turned back on I heard sounds coming out of the toilet that sounded like monsters. I even had an outside hydrant on the second time, but it didn't help much. I had to clean out all the faucet screens and toilet tanks had dirt and debris in them. I think those frickers doing the work only knew how to locate the water main by hitting the damn thing.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63895 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:32 pm to
Gaming Board
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124961 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:40 pm to
You think that’s bad, try a steam hammer in an old rusty plant coming off a 600 LB boiler.

Scare the shite out of you
Posted by timdallinger
Member since Nov 2009
1592 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:05 pm to
If you've ever shut off a faucet, especially in the basement of an older house, and heard the pipes rattle or knock, that's the same phenomenon.

Fluid is traveling through a pipe. It has momentum. When a valve closes, the flow energy is converted to pressure. The pressure wave travels back upstream of the blockage at the wavespeed of sound in that fluid. That pressure wave exerts a force on the outside pipe walls. This can cause rupture if the pressure if the pressure exceeds the pipe limits. It happens at faulty welds.

It's a concern in any liquid pipeline regardless of fluid type. In large pump stations, it can knock pipes off of pipe racks if the system was designed poorly.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
66271 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:33 pm to
Anytime he hits the pool-

Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5891 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:35 pm to
You ought to see what happens in a plant when that happens. It looks like it’s snowing from all the insulation falling off
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11599 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:36 pm to
Took a college short course on pipeline hydraulics back in the 90s for work. The professor was Dr Wylie retired from U of Michigan who had written the textbook we used.

At the end of the course he had a slide show of pipeline incidents caused by over pressuring due to water hammer and other design flaws. Needless to say, the results were pretty catastrophic and even killed people in some cases.

Not something to mess around with.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3437 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:57 pm to
They have these things called water hammer arresters. You know, to prevent water hammer.

Look it up.
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
2949 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:56 pm to

Googled water hammer.
This looks familiar.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 10:58 pm
Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
Member since Mar 2017
1586 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:00 pm to
My company builds retorts ( industrial pressure cookers) and sometimes when there is a leaking steam valve, the whole pipe rack will shake and make you think you need to run out the plant with the horrific sounds coming from the pipes!
Posted by geaux001
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
69 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:31 pm to
This is what I do for a living. On a domestic scale, you can probably just add some standpipe to the plumbing line if you have the vertical space, you can slow the closing of the valve, or otherwise reduce the acceleration of the fluid. Anyone who hates the sound their ice maker makes when it stops filling is experiencing water hammer. Standpipe is similar to an alternative benefit that water towers serve.

On an an industrial scale, I have seen 8" steel pipe severed in half, pumps, relief valves, and instrumentation destroyed.

I can calculate the volume you'd need to eliminate or make it tolerable for you if you want.
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