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re: I just turned down "the vaccine". Update pg 13.

Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:42 pm to
Good for you. Pfizer’s limitations section didn’t address a concern of mine for their vaccine. I have no idea how those who were in the study behaved once they enrolled in the study.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:43 pm to
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I have no idea how those who were in the study behaved once they enrolled in the study.



Wut
Posted by Dixierebel
Alexandria, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:44 pm to
RN myself, so why take an unproven vaccine for a disease that has a greater than 99% survival rate if you are not Obese and 80?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:45 pm to
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Why is it dumb to not want a rushed vaccine for a virus that’s been here less than a year and has a 99% survival rate?

Because the survival rate of folks who take the vaccine is A LOT better than that of those who get the virus.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:45 pm to
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Wut


It’s pretty evident based on what I said. Pfizer’s article on their vaccine didn’t address behavioral patterns of their cohort. As in, once they enrolled did they alter their behavior such that they may or may not have been more at risk?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:46 pm to
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One nurse trying to give it to me said "i already had corona and I still took the vaccine



I have a good friend that’s an ICU nurse and her and I have been discussing the vaccine for the last month. She was back and forth about it, decided she would take it when offered, then caught Covid THIS week from her kids. She said she still plans on taking the vaccine. When I asked why, she stated it’s proven to have longer lasting immunity than the actual virus. She swears that’s what she’s been told by her doctor friends and specialist in immunology.

We had that conversation just yesterday! Don’t crucify the messenger.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:46 pm to
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As in, once they enrolled did they alter their behavior such that they may or may not have been more at risk?

At risk of what? There was a control group, so both groups would have been at the same risk.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:47 pm to
If she just had covid they recommend you wait 2-3 months until getting vaccine
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:48 pm to
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At risk of what? There was a control g


Yeah no shite. One group got the vaccine, one group got the placebo. Neither group knew what they got. Did participants in any group alter their day-to-day behavior once enrolled in the trial? It seems pretty important to me to know if people began to take more or less risk than they otherwise would on the “hopes” they were vaccinated.
Posted by lilsnappa
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:49 pm to
It's interesting to me that every physician I know would take the vaccine in eyeball if they had to, but nurses are like "nah, I'm good".

Do you also have that attitude with the Flu shot? Do you turn down other vaccines when they are offered?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30361 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:51 pm to
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If she just had covid they recommend you wait 2-3 months until getting vaccine


Maybe that’s what she meant. Her exact message to me was “I still plan on taking the vaccine.”.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12930 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:52 pm to
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Yes but not by a vaccine that was produced in a few months with no long term data and proof of effectiveness


Polio vaccine says hello.
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:54 pm to
The vaccine causes infertility
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:04 pm to
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I just turned down "the vaccine".


Have a God damn mother fricking upvote.
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:05 pm to
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The vaccine causes infertility


Stop reading articles you find on Facebook.

My wife is physician, we're also trying to have a baby. She got the vaccine yesterday.

She's smarter than you and made that decision.

Think about it.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:06 pm to
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I said "no thank you". Was I wrong?


No, I think everyone should make their own decision...and live with whatever consequences result. I’m high risk so I am going to take the vaccine as soon as it is available to me.

I think your only obligation is to be damn sure you don’t give the virus to anyone else if you catch it.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9739 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:07 pm to
I’m supposed to get it next week but I won’t.

frick all that.
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1302 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Do you also have that attitude with the Flu shot? Do you turn down other vaccines when they are offered?


Yep. Don’t take flu shot. Won’t take this one.
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1302 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Because the survival rate of folks who take the vaccine is A LOT better than that of those who get the virus.


The mortality rate for my demographic is almost non-existent. There’s not any wiggle room for A LOT better.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63918 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:12 pm to
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Note a lot of nurses are opting out but I know almost no docs who are


My wife had been opposed, but this fact has finally resigned her to taking it.
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