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re: WSJ piece about Jill Biden gets author cancelled from Northwestern
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:09 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:09 pm to Klark Kent
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write completely false hit piece about Trump’s family - get a promotion
write a critique of a Biden, Clinton, OBama, or Kamala - plan on losing your job and being shamed publicly.
They are fricking zealots, eventually going to have to Romanize them, in the historical sense.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:13 pm to BorrisMart
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So you see the lunacy of calling an opinion wrong because you hold a contrary opinion. How can an opinion be wrong, they are are opinions, they can be built on erroneous information/data/interpretation but its merely an individual's personal belief on a subject; which makes "opinions," by their very nature, subjective
So you are one of those “opinion can’t be wrong” people. Well firstly, the guy is saying something that could possibly be verified through analysis. He isn’t saying “I like chocolate,” he is suggesting a lack of rigor in all PhD’s based on his own experience. That can be verifiable, and argued and wrestled with, because it is a massive claim. There is certainly a difference between claims of preference, and claims of universal experience, which is what this author explicitly argues. Yet I can’t take issue with that? What kind of truth-seeking operation is that? We can easily look at the tradition of liberal education, and see what has replaced what in the course of earning a doctorate, and make an opinion based on that, correct?
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But to presuppose that your anecdotal experiences, which created your opinion, during your time in school actually has the ability to prove or disprove the validity of the author's opinion is rather preposterous.
I literally said that in the absence of evidence for his claim, which isn’t testable in an objective way, but does have a qualitative aspect to it, that I would have to rely on my experiences. You seem to be elevating his experience above mine, which is your prerogative, but I can easily say that my own experience doesn’t reflect any relaxation of standards, for the reasons I already provided.
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The Gandhi part was pure sarcasm, since he is considered by some as a champion of human rights.
It was actually convenient given his experiences with the British and his explicit desire to organize boycotts against anything British at all. Gandhi’s depiction in Western media does a disservice to how anti-Western he was, in my view.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:15 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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“I’m hoping Dr. Jill becomes the surgeon general,” Goldberg said on the air in March. “She’s a hell of a doctor. She’s an amazing doctor.”
Back in March Whoopi was confused as well. Going into “hell of a doctor”and “amazing doctor” shows you how full of crap she is.
I honestly rarely hear PhDs being called or referred to as doctor as often as she has been.
Also misogynistic is used now for any criticism for her and Kamela and even just disagreeing with them. Kamala was worst candidate in debates and early campaign, but it will be sexist and racist to point that out and anything that isn’t 100% positive in future. Same people pushing this don’t care what they have said about Melanie Or Ivanka past 4 years. Hunter will be off limits as a son of Biden even as they made fun of Trump’s youngest son.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:22 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Maybe don't start your article off with a paragraph that reads like this
and you wont get shite canned. This could have been written in a non dickish way but he decided to be a smartass and it bit him in the butt. Too bad so sad.
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Madame First Lady—Mrs. Biden—Jill—kiddo: a bit of advice on what may seem like a small but I think is a not unimportant matter. Any chance you might drop the “Dr.” before your name? “Dr. Jill Biden” sounds and feels fraudulent, not to say a touch comic. Your degree is, I believe, an Ed.D., a doctor of education, earned at the University of Delaware through a dissertation with the unpromising title “Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.” A wise man once said that no one should call himself “Dr.” unless he has delivered a child. Think about it, Dr. Jill, and forthwith drop the doc.
and you wont get shite canned. This could have been written in a non dickish way but he decided to be a smartass and it bit him in the butt. Too bad so sad.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:25 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Whoopi thinks she should be Surgeon General. One you are Surgeon General you can be head of the Military because you are a general!!!
LINK
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:30 pm to Cousin Key
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mean there can’t be that many middle school French teachers with PhDs, can there?
Probably tons..
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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So you are one of those “opinion can’t be wrong” people. Well firstly, the guy is saying something that could possibly be verified through analysis. He isn’t saying “I like chocolate,” he is suggesting a lack of rigor in all PhD’s based on his own experience. That can be verifiable, and argued and wrestled with, because it is a massive claim. There is certainly a difference between claims of preference, and claims of universal experience, which is what this author explicitly argues. Yet I can’t take issue with that? What kind of truth-seeking operation is that? We can easily look at the tradition of liberal education, and see what has replaced what in the course of earning a doctorate, and make an opinion based on that, correct?
How can you quantify something like "mass perception" or even an individual's perception? It can't be done. While you say "they guy is saying something that could possibly be verified through analysis," how so? Take a mandated poll of the entire U.S. and ask their perception upon higher learning degrees and their current state of regard in the eyes of the public? While information that someone bases their opinion can be wrong, that does not nullify the opinion, because the opinion still in fact is formed and exists in the mind of the person. Once again, to hold your own opinion higher than another presupposes that you are truly the only great, divine, and all knowing being to currently walk the Earth.
As for liking chocolate, he essentially did say, "I like chocolate," but rather it was in the form of "I think certain higher education degrees aren't as esteemed of times past." Both express his opinion. However, as I noted earlier, the opinion is irrelevant, this is about people throwing fits with opinions that they don't like. Even more so when they base this belief on the fact that they are more educated or have experienced more than the other person. Opinions are immune to any analysis for specificity. Except perhaps, with regard to the frequency (or specific date) in which one has expressed the opinion, or other things like that.
As for Mrs. Biden, she can call herself Dr. Bada Bing Crosby for all I care, but the real crux of our direct discourse, and with society at large, is this misguided notion that because you study something for a few years, you are simply done learning and become an authority on the subject.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:48 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:I don’t see the issue. At least those are working on your body
In no reasonable realm should the chiropractors or others call chiropractors doctors.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:07 pm to Dr RC
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This could have been written in a non dickish way but he decided to be a smartass and it bit him in the butt. Too bad so sad.
When someone acts a clown (like Quid pro Jill) expect laughs
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:10 pm to BorrisMart
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While information that someone bases their opinion can be wrong, that does not nullify the opinion, because the opinion still in fact is formed and exists in the mind of the person.
Amazing.
You’re saying that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the fact that the opinion exists is greater than its relationship to truth or falsity. You can see why such a position is a fallacious line of logic? Having an opinion isn’t some defense against nonsense. You can have an opinion, and be mistaken, wrong, ignorant, operating on incomplete information. Every one of us make these sorts of judgements every day. The implications of taking the “opinion” that opinions themselves are intractable is utterly amazing, and you should work this out for yourself, because I don’t think you understand the argument you are making.
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Once again, to hold your own opinion higher than another presupposes that you are truly the only great, divine, and all knowing being to currently walk the Earth.
Utter nonsense. I’ve already said what I mean, in that I do not see his opinion reflected in the actual on-the-ground reality. Generally, at this point, you could offer evidence, like how Ph.D’s in years past required this mastery of classes and now they don’t, etc, to which I would offer a riposte. I’m literally talking about one small part of my experience, comparing it to the author’s and disagreeing. Why you seem so heavily invested in this dude’s column, that you literally invented a position for me and then ascribed it to me, as you did in your first post, and then continued talking about nonsense is beyond me.
I’m guessing you just don’t like the Biden’s, which is fair, and read into my post a defense of the Biden’s that I didn’t make. And now you’re repeating literal logical fallacies at me without a thought or care in the world.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:19 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
In not going to wade through the bullshite.
The semen receptacle* of the homewrecking future occupant of the White House is no more a doctor than anyone teaching outside of a medical school.
*If you've got a problem with that descriptor of her and the senile old fart, where were you when FLOTUS was being called all kinds of vile things by the MSM?
The semen receptacle* of the homewrecking future occupant of the White House is no more a doctor than anyone teaching outside of a medical school.
*If you've got a problem with that descriptor of her and the senile old fart, where were you when FLOTUS was being called all kinds of vile things by the MSM?
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:22 pm to Dr RC
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and you wont get shite canned. This could have been written in a non dickish way but he decided to be a smartass and it bit him in the butt. Too bad so sad.
This isn't Jill Biden's first rodeo and 99% of non-medical doctors don't demand that people refer to them as doctors. Of course we're all expected to worship the ground politicians on the left walk on so its only naturally anyone who doesn't toe the line is cast off as nullified.
article from 2013 criticizing Jill Biden for demanding she be called doctor
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:33 pm to Eighteen
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I mean Whoopi fricking Goldberg said she should be Surgeon General.
Amazing how ‘unfunny’ comedians become the people look to for direction. In all fairness...Whoopi probably thinks Jill is an MD.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:40 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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Epstein wrote that Jill Biden – the wife of President-elect Joe Biden -- using “Dr.” before her name “sounds and feels fraudulent, not to say a touchsu comic,” because her doctorate is in education, not medicine or science.
Is her husband an honary unwitting Doctor of deceit or deflection, on behalf on the lunatic left to summarily install the Kamauler, post election?
´Tis my question.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:15 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
I have a high strung MIL with a doctorate degree I'd early childhood development. She went through a phase of wanting everyone to address her as "Dr."
She finally figured out that nobody liked her better for it, so she wasn't going to get the respect she craved by insisting she be addressed that way.
She finally figured out that nobody liked her better for it, so she wasn't going to get the respect she craved by insisting she be addressed that way.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:28 pm to Scruffy
I didn’t know she wasn’t a medical doctor until this thread. The way everyone in the media refers to her as “Doctor Jill Biden” it sure as frick did seem like she was a medical doctor. Michelle Obama earned a Juris Doctor from Harvard Law. She didn’t make everyone call her Doctor Michelle Obama...
Oh my god. Maybe the media didn’t refer to Michelle Obama as Dr. Michelle Obama because they are racist!
Oh my god. Maybe the media didn’t refer to Michelle Obama as Dr. Michelle Obama because they are racist!
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:31 pm to Fenster
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Dr. Dre
Still more of a Dr. than Jill Biden is.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:36 pm to Epic Cajun
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Going by “doctor” in non-professional setting (regardless of your profession) is pretty douchey, but not for the reasons that the writer brought forth.
I kinda Agree.
She doesn’t have to drop it for Mrs. but they call her Dr Jill like that’s what’s on her birth certificate.
Like there is a context for President Trump and a time when you can call Him Donald Trump without being disrespectful.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:36 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy would wager that if you took a poll of US citizens, at minimum, 50% would think she were an MD.
So half the citizenry are idiots? I guess...
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