re: O has to go

How soon after the ole miss game will things start happening?

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If you get rid of the entire staff without cause you’re looking at over 30 million in contract buyouts. This doesn’t account for what it costs to bring in a new staff.

It simply isn’t going to happen unless they can fire for cause.

The reason I say the entire staff if you bring in a new coach he might keep a few guys but for the most part everyone else will be told hit the bricks.

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EXACTLY

LSU's (and other schools') athletic budgets have ben decimated and there is no foreseeable end in sight. We are a few weeks away from 2021 and the second highest grossing sport, basketball, will play the entire season and postseason under severe attendance restrictions. It is difficult to see us going from "Don't have holiday dinner with your mom and dad" to "let's pack 90,000 in here" in just a relatively few months. Remember, we still haven't "flattened the curve" in 9 months...when it was only SUPPOSED to take two weeks.

If fired for "cause", you can bet your last dollar that decision ends up in litigation, with the most likely outcome being a settlement where O would agree to take less than the $20+ million owed, but still a not insignificant chunk (likely, at minimum, $10 million)

But as much as useless as I think O is in terms of gameplay/game planning, LSU CAN win and win big with him. While it seems so far away now, 2019 DID happen. Fixing the issues will take a return to the original plan (i.e. the binder). And that has to start at the top with a strong AD.

The decision by Woodward to give O that big of a raise and extension when the market didn't warranted it was completely stupid...even without the benefit of hindsight. But it is done and not changing. That huge contract and the success of 2019 may have given O unwarranted hubris. But I think it is reasonable to say that 2020 had crumbled that sense of self importance (or at least you would hope so)

The original "plan" was hire O on the "cheap" and allow the savings to be used to put together the best staff money can buy. Guys like Pelini and Linehan who had VERY little market demand aren't what the plan called for. However, the AD (understandably) gave O the benefit of the doubt in his new hires. 2020 has eliminated that benefit and credibility.

So now you start over. Grin and swallow Pelini's buyout. Maybe do the same for Linehan. It is clear the players don't trust what the coaches are asking them to do. Let O make the new hires, but have significant oversight and remind him of the "binder". If he wants to hire a 60 year old guy with no market demand whatsoever, say no. Make him essentially present his case on why the guy he wants should be hired. Don't just give him the checkbook.

With the right assistants in place we have seen what the program can accomplish. O can still recruit and LSU is STILL LSU. This is a desirable place to play and coach.

Is it frustrating that the HC is a 60 year old man who seems to be in a perpetual life long cycle of fricking up and having to learn from those mistakes? Absolutely. But I don't know if completely nuking and starting over, particularly in this unprecedented economic atmosphere (relative to college sports) is the way to go either.

There needs to be acknowledgement by the AD and O himself that O is NOT "the straw that stirs the drink". He's essentially the flight commander of mission control. His job is to get all the right people in place and let them do what they do best. 2020 should have proven to O that he is not infallible in his decisions (coordinator choices; mandating a scheme change at all cost despite not having the personnel to effectively implement it)

We presently live in a world of constant, ridiculous, hyperbole...about everything! The reality is things are often times never as bad or good as they seem. 2020 has been a shitty year all around. But the program is not beyond saving if those at the top are willing to return the hallmarks of what built up to last year in the first place rather than thinking last year meant they had it all figured out and perfected.

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Strannix

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You'll want to fire the next coach too.

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You'll want to fire the next coach too.

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If a coach runs LSU into the ground the way O is doing, you should want him fired too. Kinda odd you support mediocrity.

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Kinda odd you support mediocrity.

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There’s a lot of work to be done to get back to being mediocre.

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If you get rid of the entire staff without cause you’re looking at over 30 million in contract buyouts. This doesn’t account for what it costs to bring in a new staff.

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I mean, even if Orgeron ends up staying, a significant portion of this staff is gone.

Ensminger, Linehan, Pelini, and multiple position coaches.

Many insiders in addition to Vol have confirmed this.

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If a coach runs LSU into the ground the way O is doing, you should want him fired too

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He will do it no matter what.

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Kinda odd you support mediocrity.

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I would say, you can't be this stupid, but unfortunately, you are.

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I would say you can't argue against it, but it's too obvious.

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I mean, your level of idiocy is truly amazing. It alone is worth creating an account.

The best part is, you have no idea where I stand on the issues involving LSU. So, you make assumptions. Assumptions made based upon gifs

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Bc they lost? Made a bad DC hire? Lost his qb and had to play true freshman ? Had some opt outs?

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I actually support O, but 2 of these were directly his fault.

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Made a bad DC hire?

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A HC is directly responsible for his hires.

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Lost his qb and had to play true freshman ?

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He could and should have addressed this with a transfer, but his (and others on this board, check the archives) blind loyalty to Brennan and corresponding fear that a transfer may run him off convinced him to not take a transfer.

Two bad calls on his part.