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How important was Aranda in the assistant hc role?

Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:13 pm
I'm honestly not sure what that all entails or if it's just a title to get him more money

I can't help but think we would be a completely different team if he was still here just because of the defense alone
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Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:14 pm to
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it's just a title to get him more money
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:16 pm to
I'd argue we are 5-3 at worst if he is still here. Likely 6-2
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:16 pm to
It was akin to the Assistant to the Regional Manager at Dunder Miflin.

Aranda's job was being the DC. That's it
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:18 pm to
The title was irrelevant; his 130 plus IQ is sorely missed.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:18 pm to
I think we are seeing what happens when O has complete unquestioned control of the program. Maybe Aranda provided checks and balances. Maybe Woodward kept a leash on things before last season. Orgeron's ego has always been his downfall.
Posted by OrlTiger128
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:18 pm to
Lol
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:34 pm to
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I'd argue we are 5-3 at worst if he is still here. Likely 6-2


All things being equal (for the sake of discussion) including Brennan's injury and the preseason opt out, I think LSU definitely beats MSU and Mizzou, and likely splits AU and A&M.

Hell, I'd argue that with just about any other mildly competent DC LSU is at least 5-3. The ridiculous desire for Ed to replicate the early/mid 2000's USC defense without the early/mid 2000's USC personnel or the early/mid 2000's style of play coupled with his decision to bring in a guy who hadn't coached against major competition in nearly 6 years was the spark that blew this whole thing up.

Ed is the guy who knows what he wants the finished product to look like, but doesn't really understand the intricacies of how to get there. That was evident when he first got the LSU job. With respect to the offense, at various times he said he wanted it to be a "pro-style" offense. While at others he said he wanted a "spread". Ultimately, what he wanted was the Bush/Linert offenses. He just wasn't clear what type of style that was considered
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:35 pm to
He ran half of our team
Posted by J2thaROC
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:36 pm to
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It was akin to the Assistant to the Regional Manager at Dunder Miflin.



Wait. Are we still talking about the assistant head coach or the head coach position?
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:39 pm to
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The title was irrelevant; his 130 plus IQ is sorely missed.


Now we are stuck with a coach with a 30 IQ
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:39 pm to
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How important was Aranda in the assistant hc role?
I'm honestly not sure what that all entails or if it's just a title to get him more money

I can't help but think we would be a completely different team if he was still here just because of the defense alone


He was probably more influential than he should have needed to be.

In most situations this is simply for a title and pay bump, maybe to be more of an ear or sounding board to the HC directly.

In this case, he probably had most of the good ideas for the program. I wouldn't be surprised that as a "sounding board" he had a hand in more decisions and more direction than O. At least as much. We look like a completely different program this year. And this could have been part of it. O has no guidance, and no idea what to do.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:30 pm to
I certainly can never blame him for taking advancements in his career through a HC job. But man do I miss him. I'd do anything to have him back on our sidelines.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Ed is the guy who knows what he wants the finished product to look like, but doesn't really understand the intricacies of how to get there. That was evident when he first got the LSU job. With respect to the offense, at various times he said he wanted it to be a "pro-style" offense. While at others he said he wanted a "spread". Ultimately, what he wanted was the Bush/Linert offenses. He just wasn't clear what type of style that was considered




well said
Posted by mhc4tigers
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:41 pm to
Not at all. Aranada could not recruit. Aranda did not want Christian Harris. Whatever
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Not at all


Yea, clearly the remaining staff was able to pick up right where Aranda left off.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:43 pm to
Baylor is having a great year
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:44 pm to
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It was akin to the Assistant to the Regional Manager at Dunder Miflin.

Aranda's job was being the DC. That's it
yeeesh.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Not at all. Aranada could not recruit. Aranda did not want Christian Harris. Whatever

There was certainly no lack of defensive talent last year

Did you pay attention to the draft?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Baylor is having a great year




Just slightly worse than ours, but they aren't coming off a championship and they don't have a fourth year coach. What point do you think you make when you bring up something so irrelevant?
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