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re: The Mandalorian Chapter 14 (s2e6) **SPOILERS**
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:16 am to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:16 am to Fewer Kilometers
That's a possibility. Hadn't thought about that.
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:23 am to Crimsonpanther13
Few things from the episode. Another great show. Mandalorian is like pizza and sex, even when it is not great, it is still pretty good, but I think even the so-so episodes are few and far between here.
I think there has to be more going on with Boba. Why did he not make a deal with Cobb to get the armour before? He had to have known he had it. Maybe he wanted to deal with Din for other reasons. When he saw the Destroyer and said "they're back", it sounded like somewhat surprise, but also a little anger. Is Boba mad about being left to die in the desert back in that pit in Return of Jedi? He made a point to mention being left for dead. Who knows, but I am sure we will get more as we move on.
I may be slow on Star Wars, but I think I finally figured out something on Yoda. I always wondered why he kind of gave up on the fight with Sidious in Revenge of Sith. Seems he could have handled him. Now, it makes sense. I know in Empire, Yoda seemed worn out after lifting that Xwing out of the swamp, but he was very old and nearing death. Seeing Grogu being tired after using the Force, it makes sense that this just has something to do with that species. Maybe?
And Grogu going ham on those troopers may have been one of my very favorite parts of the series so far.
I think there has to be more going on with Boba. Why did he not make a deal with Cobb to get the armour before? He had to have known he had it. Maybe he wanted to deal with Din for other reasons. When he saw the Destroyer and said "they're back", it sounded like somewhat surprise, but also a little anger. Is Boba mad about being left to die in the desert back in that pit in Return of Jedi? He made a point to mention being left for dead. Who knows, but I am sure we will get more as we move on.
I may be slow on Star Wars, but I think I finally figured out something on Yoda. I always wondered why he kind of gave up on the fight with Sidious in Revenge of Sith. Seems he could have handled him. Now, it makes sense. I know in Empire, Yoda seemed worn out after lifting that Xwing out of the swamp, but he was very old and nearing death. Seeing Grogu being tired after using the Force, it makes sense that this just has something to do with that species. Maybe?
And Grogu going ham on those troopers may have been one of my very favorite parts of the series so far.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:27 am to wareaglepete
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I think there has to be more going on with Boba. Why did he not make a deal with Cobb to get the armour before? He had to have known he had it.
He may have seen how Cobb was using the armor and decided it was in good hands.
Would be a nice touch if we found out that Boba had been living in Ben Kenobi's old cave-crib this entire time.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:04 am to elprez00
I just bought it a couple weeks ago for my son for Christmas. 
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:14 am to wareaglepete
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Seeing Grogu being tired after using the Force, it makes sense that this just has something to do with that species. Maybe?
The force is like a muscle. It isn’t just an infinite amount of magic that can be conjured up and on a dime. I think it’s always been there that it takes something out of you to use it and exhausts you. Which is why the most powerful force users not only know how to manipulate it but can have the endurance to manipulate it for a long time without tiring or in greater ways.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 11:06 am to wareaglepete
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Yoda seemed worn out after lifting that Xwing out of the swamp, but he was very old and nearing death. Seeing Grogu being tired after using the Force, it makes sense that this just has something to do with that species. Maybe?
To this point, no I don't think it is his species. They may go that route or something, but that isn't what I'm leaning towards currently. Using the force, especially at the levels Yoda was using them is just very taxing. Yoda and Palpatine were at a stalemate in their fight, but Palpatine was on the offensive, and it was wearing Yoda out. Having to counter the force has always seemed to be very difficult to do (sequel trilogy not factoring into this discussion for obvious reasons).
I think with Grogu, much of what he is doing right now is somewhat 'instinctive' along with his prior training. He probably hasn't used much of it in a long time, so using it to the levels he is, is probably very taxing.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 11:15 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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To this point, no I don't think it is his species. They may go that route or something, but that isn't what I'm leaning towards currently. Using the force, especially at the levels Yoda was using them is just very taxing. Yoda and Palpatine were at a stalemate in their fight, but Palpatine was on the offensive, and it was wearing Yoda out. Having to counter the force has always seemed to be very difficult to do (sequel trilogy not factoring into this discussion for obvious reasons).
I think with Grogu, much of what he is doing right now is somewhat 'instinctive' along with his prior training. He probably hasn't used much of it in a long time, so using it to the levels he is, is probably very taxing.
Yoda is very old, and Grogu is very young. I think connecting to the force is probably more strenuous for them than it is a prime aged Jedi.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 11:19 am to Crimsonpanther13
I also loved at the beginning when Mando kept saying "Grogu" and started chuckling every time Grogu looked up at him. So wholesome.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 11:19 am to hth52
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Just accept George didn’t give a rats about the EU’s continuity.
Actually George did not give a rats arse about the last three movies or anything regarding the timeline after ROTJ
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“I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…”
–George Lucas, Total Film, May 2007
Disney now determines what is canan and now Jango being a Mandalorian is canon no matter how people try to spin it. It is now canon plain and simple.
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But George clearly never intended for Jango or Boba to be anything like their EU counterparts who become leaders of Mandalore and very important figures of their culture.
As the quote I listed George had no plans for any of what we are seeing now including the Mandalorian.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:10 pm to Bluefin
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Palpatine: Fell a great distance, lived.
Palpatine died. He did not live. The death star exploded with his corpse on it. He was cloned.
Mace Windu, I don't think he comes back. But hell we never thought Boba survived Sarlac.
Either way, if they bring in Thrawn, then the jedi that Grogu reaches out to has to be Ezra.
IMO, you can't just bring back Thrawn from wherever he and Ezra went, and not bring back Ezra.
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Maul: Fell a great distance, lived.
was explained.....
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Mace: Fell a great distance ... ???
He was a Jedi and could have possibly stopped his falling by using the force....
Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:15 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Also, Luke got really tired and frustrated when yoda had standing on one hand with Yoda on top. Also when Luke attempted to pull the xwing out of the swamp.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:17 pm to JumpingTheShark
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This is probably my biggest pet peeve with all the new Star Wars stuff. We don’t ALWAYS need a call back to the OT and prequels to enjoy this stuff. I’m nitpicking a bit but still love Mandalorian.
most of the sets in Mandalorian are "copied" from the OT. it is a call back to its roots. Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:25 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:which is funny because she was super emotional growing up.
Ahoska indicated he was a bit too attached and emotional.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:45 pm to Bluefin
quote:Gravity is pretty much a non-issue with strong Jedi and Force users.quote:
Typical Samuel L Jackson fashion if Mace comes back.
If Mace actually comes back, it will just prove that gravity doesn’t actually kill people in the Star Wars universe.
Maul: Fell a great distance, lived.
Palpatine: Fell a great distance, lived.
Mace: Fell a great distance ... ???
Obi-wan casually jumped out into nowhere (the bottomless street on Coruscant) without concerns. If they're conscious, they can levitate their bodies to prevent fatal injuries. They can toss and move big objects, they can do that to their own bodies.
They are, in addition, high-level Shaolin monks for practical purposes, having spent much of their lives practicing control of their minds. So they may resist blacking out due to pain. Mace wasn't out cold when he went through the window, neither was Palpatine as he went down the shaft. Maul wasn't bleeding out (which would have been fatal), his wounds were cauterized. So if they were awake, and they had to soften their impact or die, they would be able to do that. Some better than others, but Mace was Council level. If anyone could, he could.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 12:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:There's some potential interest with this, some good storylines if he comes back.
'm going to be so disappointed if they bring Windu back.
Don't get me wrong, i'll take any opportunity to see SLJ playing Windu, but story wise i'll hate it. Hopefully they don't go that route and make the same mistake they did with Palpatine.
Mace Windu- didn't trust Anakin, and wisely so. Might never have been willing to go along with a Skywalker Jedi academy for that reason, so he'd not have been helping Luke. We could also see Ahsoka going the same direction as Mace; keeping her out of Luke's circle that way.
Also, Mace chopped Jango's head off in front of Boba, and Boba's sworn vengeance.
But NOW, Boba's sworn to protect Grogu and has reiterated that vow, and we've sort of established on this show that foundling Mandalorian bounty hunters
honor their vows. So Mace showing up to help Grogu will create a ton of tension, but so long as they both have the same intent- rescue and protect Grogu- Boba's going to have to put revenge on the backburner.
It sure seems like they are carefully setting this exact scenario up to work. This would be the only way you could put Mace and Boba in the same room without a deathmatch... and they've already made it a possibility.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:13 pm to Kracka
Damn, I was just pointing out that major characters who are presumed dead after falling from great heights always seem to come back later
I know there's always an explanation
I know there's always an explanation
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:47 pm to Bluefin
Ok, here's a theory- I discussed it with my son (and he strongly disagrees );
the Ahsoka/Thrawn/Ezra thread is different from the Grogu-calls-a-Jedi thread.
The Thrawn thread is the future big bad in the show, future seasons.
The Jedi that answers Grogu is Mace. My son says Mace is dead, and if he somehow survived he would be bitter and likely dark (his purple lightsaber stating he's close to the Dark Side already, before the incident with Palpatine). Ok, so he's basically a Dark Jedi, but the last vestiges of the Light Side within him are what stirs him to respond to this call.
Boba Fett will want to kill him for Jango, but his vow causes him to stick to the mission at hand. Mace being mission-critical, can't do it.
This is going to be a very dangerous, low-probability rescue attempt... we will see multiple instances of extreme badass from both Boba and Mace. And ultimately, will come to a point where they both (perhaps together?) have to sacrifice themselves, in order for Mando to escape with Grogu... in Boba's ship.
This allows:
a) Mando to get a new ship
b) Mace to redeem himself
c) Boba to redeem himself for things he's done, and to pass the torch to Mando
d) fans to see some great fan-service action, with Boba Fett AND Mace Windu wreaking shite one last time onscreen, before we move on from their storylines.
); the Ahsoka/Thrawn/Ezra thread is different from the Grogu-calls-a-Jedi thread.
The Thrawn thread is the future big bad in the show, future seasons.
The Jedi that answers Grogu is Mace. My son says Mace is dead, and if he somehow survived he would be bitter and likely dark (his purple lightsaber stating he's close to the Dark Side already, before the incident with Palpatine). Ok, so he's basically a Dark Jedi, but the last vestiges of the Light Side within him are what stirs him to respond to this call.
Boba Fett will want to kill him for Jango, but his vow causes him to stick to the mission at hand. Mace being mission-critical, can't do it.
This is going to be a very dangerous, low-probability rescue attempt... we will see multiple instances of extreme badass from both Boba and Mace. And ultimately, will come to a point where they both (perhaps together?) have to sacrifice themselves, in order for Mando to escape with Grogu... in Boba's ship.
This allows:
a) Mando to get a new ship
b) Mace to redeem himself
c) Boba to redeem himself for things he's done, and to pass the torch to Mando
d) fans to see some great fan-service action, with Boba Fett AND Mace Windu wreaking shite one last time onscreen, before we move on from their storylines.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:07 pm to Crimsonpanther13
Another fun episode. Love bad arse Boba Fett. But as mentioned, the whole drop your jet pack thing made no sense on any level, so just a weak plot device. Another wise, great.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:08 pm to Broken Coyote
What was the deal with the Chinese lady showing her stomach like that? Is she an android?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:35 pm to TideSaint
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What was the deal with the Chinese lady showing her stomach like that? Is she an android?
Looks like she was "repaired" with some Luke hand technology...or something slightly more badass!
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