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re: Former tennis player goes public on Davis.*Interesting Updates*

Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:03 am to
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:03 am to
Why didn't you report?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:03 am to
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He beat the hell out of her once and was arrested because a witness called the cops

When he was arrested and the cops came, Lewis says he didnt do anything. Luckily, the witness had a video of him beating her so the cops still arrested him

I dont think yall realize how shattered beaten women are. They are like slaves, they protect their abusers



Yet she is still following him and liking his posts on Twitter as recently as 2 days ago









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This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16665 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:04 am to
Can the Admin turn TS to Floyd's HS colors one more time before they're canned? Be a nice gesture on their part to show their true colors.

Don't mean to make light of the sexual abuse claims but I deplore our current Admin.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24185 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:05 am to
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I also dont understand why the tennis player covered up for Davis on several occasions


Because people are complicated and respond differently to various stressors. You're thinking rationally about an irrational situation.
Posted by michael corleone
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:05 am to
LestEr Earl and son are about to take down at least 2 more LSU coaches/admin. I think that will increase their collective body count to four or five.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:06 am to
Serious question and has probably been asked.

What is the protocol for Title IX when the police is involved and nothing comes of their investigation. I understand that LSU has to do an investigation of their own. Obviously if there are deleted texts admitting guilt, that is a no brainer.

Just asking in a more broad sense. Obviously that has to be difficult for an administration to say someone is guilty when the police don’t.

Again, not denying anything here. Just a general discussion point
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:07 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:06 am to
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Were the tennis coaches told to act the way they did or are they just horrible people?
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I honestly don’t see this mattering at this point.

Definitely doesn’t matter for the tennis coach or coaches, but just wondering how far it goes beyond them.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:07 am to
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I dont think yall realize how shattered beaten women are. They are like slaves, they protect their abusers


It's amazing to me that so many people can't grasp this in the context of victims of any kind of abuse, not just scenarios like this. I've never been the victim of physical/sexual/emotional abuse, but all it takes is just a baseline effort to listen to what these people feel and experience to understand the profound ignorance behind simply saying "go to the police!".
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:07 am to
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LSU has needed a major reset for a while. Hopefully this will bring that.


They'll double down on dumbassery and diversity. Don't worry.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:08 am to
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Yet she is still following him and liking his posts on Twitter as recently as 2 days ago


...which goes directly to the point he was making.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:09 am to
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Yet she is still following him and liking his posts on Twitter as recently as 2 days ago


You realize you're confirming what pride is saying, right?
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:11 am to
Didn't she have a restraining order on him? And she's still liking his tweets??
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:13 am to
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Just wait until her dad comes out. He will burn it all down
It will get uglier, more muddy, and (as you alluded to) more pointed when her dad starts talking directly to the media.

Supposedly he confronted Coach Sell directly. MAYBE, don't know this but it's a logical assumption, admin further up the food chain from Sell.

Sell fricked up. Sell tried to stymie complaints becasuse once she sat on anything, anything at all, regarding a Title IX complaint suspension was the best she could hope for. So she tried to block it going even higher.

And if it made it higher than her, she should have been suspended, without pay, immediately (because it's fricking hard to fire public employees). If it made it higher, and that suspension and corresponding wide arse open investigation didn't happen then both the consequences and weight of the whole thing multiplied.
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What is the protocol for Title IX when the police is involved and nothing comes of their investigation. I understand that LSU has to do an investigation of their own. Obviously if there are deleted texts admitting guilt, that is a no brainer.
This doesn't answer your question about protocol directly, but...

There are numerous examples of where a Title IX hearing/committee either didn't wait on police findings or proceeded with punitive actions despite police finding no wrongdoing.

That's exactly what Title IX is, or one of the unstated goals by the people who evolved it from a strictly anti-discrimination function, to be independent from authorities based on the assumption that law enforcement was either biased (discriminatory towards women) themselves or had too bad of a track record regarding sexual assaults of all kinds.

So there really is no protocol as far as conclusions and actions. The can cooperate; they should cooperate. But a Title IX committee can act independently as can law enforcement. Hence their findings and actions aren't always in concert.

And of course, neither Title IX cmtes or law enforcement are rarely willing to admit a mistake and back track.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:21 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96791 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:15 am to
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Yet she is still following him and liking his posts on Twitter as recently as 2 days ago
So thanks for confirming everything I said?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96791 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:18 am to
When I was first hearing all of this a year or so ago, I thought it was tragic but I thought it was a fathers grief that was playing up the angle "LSU is hiding it and doing nothing"

Then the article comes out that Verge is deleting texts where Davis admits to the abuse, then Julia Sell comes out and says she was never made aware, and it was a holy shite they really were involved moment



Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4471 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:18 am to
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You realize you're confirming what pride is saying, right?


His statement is an unprovable and unfair tautology. If she cuts off all communications with him, it's proof he has done something awful to her. If she continues to have apparently positive and voluntary interactions with him (years after the alleged abuse), it's proof she is suffering from prolonged Stockholm syndrome and he has done something awful to her. You've predetermined the result.

Here is the bottom line: no one here knows the full facts, no one here should be wildly speculating on what occurred. It's pure surmise.
Posted by Epaminondas
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:19 am to
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Beaten woman syndrome
This is a name given to doing something stupid.

(This doesn't excuse LSU/multiple people at LSU for Title 9 violations or Drake Davis, who should be in prison.)
Posted by Geaux17
Member since Jan 2006
1624 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:19 am to
So is the tennis player that was beaten by Drake Davis the same player accusing Guice of rape? Or was this a different tennis player? I am confused
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:21 am to
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His statement is an unprovable and unfair tautology.


It's been proven over and over again if you bother to open a book.

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You've predetermined the result.
I've done no such thing. I'm just not ignorant.
Posted by Epaminondas
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:21 am to
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Do you ask this about the victims of Priests?
If you're talking about victims who are minors, it's not the same thing.
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