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re: Big day for Louisiana Politics, JBE goes in front of judge re petition to limit powers

Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:27 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53089 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:27 am to
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because some of the GOP actually supports JBE.


This is absolutely true. I have no respect for our state's legislature (both house and senate) or for any Louisiana politician really. They only seek to be part of the club. Louisiana has a bad case of celebrity envy. And these politicians believe that being government = celebrity.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
46986 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:28 am to
Quit voting for the same politicians
I really wish someone worth a shite would run against Cassidy
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14698 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:28 am to
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oday jbe gets his day in court to argue against the petition that was filed to limit his powers during the emergency declarations

What are the actual legal powers of a petition? I've always thought of a petition as more of a request; "should" instead of "shall".
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53089 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:29 am to
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The issue at hand is the Governor completely ignoring part B of this statute. Whether he wants to take it to court or not is up to him, but he is still obligated to end the declared emergency.



Pretty sure even if the local court rules in favor of JBE, this will go to appeals, then Louisiana SC. The statute is clear, and the legislature appears to have done things by the book. Now whether a judge rules on the actual constitutionality of it, or is a partisan hack, we'll see.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58493 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:29 am to
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The virus isn’t going away. Closing down again will do what? Just push the can down the road. That’s it.


This!!
It’s common sense. It’s been proven over and over throughout the country and around the world that going into lockdown does not work.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14698 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:22 am to
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in consultation with the public health authority

Who is the public health authority? LDH Secretary?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37308 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:25 am to
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If the legislature passed a law that gave the governor emergency powers and prescribed how the legislature could limit those powers, how can a court remove the restraints the legislature provided and let the governor keep those powers? The court shouldn’t.

Now if there are other laws or a constitutional basis for the governor to close businesses, limit occupancies, etc. then the court could throw out the entire law. The governor could continue on as he saw fit. The law the legislature is using wouldn’t be necessary.

IMHO, you can’t split the baby.



I would say "you must be new around here" but I know you are not =)

In theory, I don't necessairly disagree with what you are saying.

But... LASC has in the past most certainly "split the baby".

The LA constitution places a tremendous amount of power in the governor... possibly more than any other governor has in the country.

LASC most certainly has the authority, and precedence, to toss out certain provisions of a law, without tossing the entire law.

Perhaps you and I agree they should not have that ability. But they do.

Edit: I know the hearing today is before the JDC. But I'm sure this will end up at LASC pretty soon.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:32 am to
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this ruling could have long lasting implications over governors powers in Louisiana
good luck louisiana
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1075 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:33 am to
Legit question here.

If provision A was agreed upon only due to the presence of provision B, then would that precedent still apply? I'm not sure of the previous precedents set by LASC. I can certainly see how provisions within a single law that do not impact each other can be rejected. I do not believe that provisions that do impact each other SHOULD be allowed to be rejected individually.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36543 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:36 am to
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I would say "you must be new around here" but I know you are not =)

In theory, I don't necessairly disagree with what you are saying.

But... LASC has in the past most certainly "split the baby".

The LA constitution places a tremendous amount of power in the governor... possibly more than any other governor has in the country.

LASC most certainly has the authority, and precedence, to toss out certain provisions of a law, without tossing the entire law.

Perhaps you and I agree they should not have that ability. But they do.

Edit: I know the hearing today is before the JDC. But I'm sure this will end up at LASC pretty soon.


If the La. Constitution already gave the Governor emergency powers then the entire law should be tossed out; however, if the law gave the governor these emergency powers with a mechanism to take them away then the entire law would remain.

I can’t see it any other way.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5283 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:38 am to
Muh flatten the curb?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53523 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 11:04 am to
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All he has done was try to curve this horrible virus, which at one point it was working. But the stubbiness of some people has hampered the effectiveness. The same group that probably was saying this virus will go away on 11-4 by the way why has it not disappeared.

I’ll pray for you baw, we all know the virus is worse on lgbt and people of size
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 11:28 am to
But it's only for 2 weeks
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37308 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
Ruled for JBE.

On to appeals!!
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7974 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:33 pm to
Not a good day for checks and balances.
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