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Those of u who carry: Good info I received from my 2A attorney, approaching the election
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:24 am
The moments after you have used your gun or other legal weapon are critical. If you do or say the incorrect thing, it may mean the difference between keeping your legal rights and waiving them.
Immediately following a self-defensive shooting:
1. Make sure the threat has been controlled and you are safe.
2. Do not disturb the scene.
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Do not make any statements to the dispatcher about what happened (e.g., “I’ve just shot an intruder”).
You do not have to stay on the line with the 911 dispatcher (they’ll ask you to do so).
4. Call your attorney.
5. Comply with all police commands.
- Police do not know who the good guys and bad guys are when they arrive. Comply in a nonthreatening manner with your hands clearly visible and your weapon secure.
- Inform police you have been the victim of a crime.
6. Invoke your legal rights.
In an emergency situation, simply say these words to any law enforcement officer: ”I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and my right to an attorney.”
- Make no statement to anyone about the incident.
- Wait to talk to your attorney.
- If asked to accompany law enforcement, comply but make no statements.
- Do not make jokes or cute remarks.
- Do not say anything, even if you believe you have done nothing wrong.
Everyone be safe, and protect yourself and your loved ones.
Immediately following a self-defensive shooting:
1. Make sure the threat has been controlled and you are safe.
2. Do not disturb the scene.
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Do not make any statements to the dispatcher about what happened (e.g., “I’ve just shot an intruder”).
You do not have to stay on the line with the 911 dispatcher (they’ll ask you to do so).
4. Call your attorney.
5. Comply with all police commands.
- Police do not know who the good guys and bad guys are when they arrive. Comply in a nonthreatening manner with your hands clearly visible and your weapon secure.
- Inform police you have been the victim of a crime.
6. Invoke your legal rights.
In an emergency situation, simply say these words to any law enforcement officer: ”I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and my right to an attorney.”
- Make no statement to anyone about the incident.
- Wait to talk to your attorney.
- If asked to accompany law enforcement, comply but make no statements.
- Do not make jokes or cute remarks.
- Do not say anything, even if you believe you have done nothing wrong.
Everyone be safe, and protect yourself and your loved ones.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:31 am
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:25 am to EKG
I like it
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to EKG
quote:Do many of y'all really have an attorney? And, I mean one that actually practices criminal defense?
4. Call your attorney.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to EKG
Anybody who wants to take your lawful gun..shoot them.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to EKG
quote:
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Just a question so I don't step on my tongue if this ever occurs...What are some examples of each item?
What assistance is needed? What does this mean? That you need police, ambulance etc?
It's an honest question..if I have it right in my head now, I won't say it wrong when it matters.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to EKG
My CCL class instructor also included a couple suggestions:
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:34 am to EKG
Thanks for this
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:38 am to EKG
quote:
- Wait to talk to your attorney.
In this day and age, I wouldn't say a word until my atty showed up.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:39 am to EKG
Good info. Call your lawyer, and keep your mouth shut. No truer words ever spoken.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:39 am to EKG
quote:
Invoke your legal rights. In an emergency situation, simply say these words to any law enforcement officer: ”I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and my right to an attorney.” - Make no statement to anyone about the incident. - Wait to talk to your attorney. - If asked to accompany law enforcement, comply but make no statements. - Do not make jokes or cute remarks. - Do not say anything, even if you believe you have done nothing wrong.
Not enough people invoke the 5th. The investigators have a huge advantage and people tend to think answering questions will help them.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:40 am to EKG
Go figure, the biggest weasels on the planet, have come up with a way to convince us that we shouldn't just shoot them.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:41 am to EKG
quote:
1. Make sure the threat has been controlled and you are safe.
So,
double-tap?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:50 am to EKG
I don't have a criminal defense attorney on retainer. However my brother is a politically connected attorney in DC. He has several friends that are DOJ attorneys and would call them immediately.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:53 am to EKG
For those Breaking Bad fans, one if the scenes is when Gus was being interviewed by the Philly cops and kept responding, "lawyer."
Every statement you make is just another opportunity to sink yourself.
There are people like Peter Strzok out there
Every statement you make is just another opportunity to sink yourself.
There are people like Peter Strzok out there
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:05 am to EKG
quote:
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Do not make any statements to the dispatcher about what happened (e.g., “I’ve just shot an intruder”).
You do not have to stay on the line with the 911 dispatcher (they’ll ask you
There are some attorneys that advise that you should not be the one to call 911 if there are bystanders present that can call. You are being recorded and even the tone of your voice, how loud you are talking, and how excited you sound could be used against you.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:08 am to EKG
Appreciate this. I have my CCL but don’t carry as of now until I get more range time. I want to be 100% confident. This is good info to know for home protection and all.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:47 am to EKG
yep.
I use TX Law Shield/US Law Sheild.
good piece of mind.
I use TX Law Shield/US Law Sheild.
good piece of mind.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:51 am to EKG
good advice for after you are forced to shoot. another good piece of advice my CC instructor gives is to go to extreme measures to avoid having to shoot if possible. if you have a way out, take it. don't be too proud to walk away.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:01 am to EKG
May need a sticky between now and the inauguration.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:07 am to EKG
I hunt and fish with the DA here in baw country, law’s on my side as Doyle Hargraves would say.
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