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Engineers of the OB: Will this bridge support a loaded log truck?

Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:53 pm
Bridge span is 30 feet. My grandfather put some steel beams across it in the late 1940s. They're about 12" tall and 8" across (not sure the proper way to describe those dimensions).

There are four total beams. Two pairs about two feet apart. And about 6 feet on centers.

I decked the bridge with full cut 3x10" pine.

Log trucks will be 80,000 pounds. But only half the load will be on the bridge at any one time. I guess the rear axle might carry more weight, so maybe a max of 45-50,000 at a time.

Here are some photos. Thanks for your thoughts and advice.










Posted by SaDaTayMoses
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:57 pm to
I'd give it a shot. Only 1 way to find out
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:57 pm to
only one way to find out
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

cgrand


quote:

only one way to find out



And to think that I was actually counting on you for some hard core engineering advice....

I am hoping that you guys will tell me to go for it. And then if the bridge collapses on my log trucks, I'll sue Chicken and take over the site
Posted by holmesbr
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:05 pm to
I'm not an engineer but how far on the dirt is that beam or is there a concrete pad/footing there?
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
I'd try it out with a half loaded log truck first.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:18 pm to
Looks precarious. Based on the images provided, I’m gonna vote ‘No’

I’d start with even much smaller vehicle and with empty truck first.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:25 pm to
Lead vato in pic #1 seems doubtful.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:26 pm to
I am not an engineer, but that big arse beam laying on a support of a wet dirt bank seems to be a liability.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

how far on the dirt is that beam or is there a concrete pad/footing there?


So far into the dirt that we couldn't find the end of them....I'm guessing 10' on each side. There was some erosion on the near side in the photograph. So we built a form and poured 5 yards of concrete there.
Posted by GeauxBichGeaux
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:30 pm to
im not an engineer, but ive seen bridges that looked heavier duty than that, that werent rated to hold 80K lbs.
Posted by Tigah D
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:31 pm to
I'm an engineer, wouldn't stamp it, but keep us posted on how it goes. Prayers sent for the first loaded log truck driver across
Posted by reds on reds on reds
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:32 pm to
What size are those I beams? Web/flange/thickness?
Posted by reds on reds on reds
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:32 pm to
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I'm an engineer, wouldn't stamp it


Agreed
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:32 pm to
Your main concern should be how those I beams are connected to the embankment.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:33 pm to
I'll join the others by offering my unprofessional opinion of hell nope. Is that a patch panel from a previous bend in the second pic?

Also, I'd be worried about the first truck to hit that thing with muddy tires sliding right off one side, doesn't look very wide.
Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:35 pm to
what kind of footing/base are the i-beams sitting on?

In the only picture it looks like they are just sitting on the ground.

If that's all, I'd be scared a log truck would push them in the ground and they could turn.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Your main concern should be how those I beams are connected to the embankment.




If they've been there since the 40s, I'd have to imagine that they've done as much settling into the earth as they're going to do. But yea, not too sure I'd try driving a loaded log truck over it.

ETA: If those are W12 beams with a 30' span and your estimated load is close, you're not gonna wanna try it.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:39 pm to
Did your grandfather put these down when they were logging the land? It looks like the beams are directly under where the wheel load will be?

Personally I would throw in a culvert for the short term until done logging and then remove the culvert (probably would require a permit).
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
Coming down that steep in bankment is going to put a lot of force on that initial step onto the bridge. Better go slow
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