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John Cougar - before the denim

Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:30 pm
For some reason this video from 1981 popped up in my youtube suggested videos - Ain't Even Done With the Night.

Had never seen him like this, and not sure what he was going for.

Looks like someone trying to dance when they're borderline blackout drunk but can still barely maintain their balance

Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3302 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:08 am to
This performance was during the Grammys or AMA telecast. He also paid homage to James Brown when his bandmate kept putting the Cape on him and "trying" to drag him offstage. Cougar was known early on for being comedic, even goofy in his performances. He definitely got more serious as he aged.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16196 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:43 am to
There's a cool story about his long time drummer, Kenny Aronoff, on a Netflix doc called "Hired Guns".

If I remember correctly, Aronoff said Mellencamp fired his other drummer because he didn't like how he played Jack and Diane. Aronoff was brought in the studio to audition, and was basically told how you fill the break with the drum solo will determine if you get the job. He played that famed drum fill on his first go and ended up being his drummer for 14 years.

Apparently Mellencamp is a douche though and fired him abruptly after 14 years.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21220 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:21 pm to
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Cougar was known early on for being comedic, even goofy in his performances.


Interesting. I remember hearing that he had shifted personas, but I only ever saw him in the Live Aid, smalltown phase. I get the James Brown tribute, just was surprised by how campy all the dancing stuff was.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3302 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:58 pm to
I don't know how good of a guy he is. I get the impression he doesn't suffer fools very well. A lot of his band has been with him for many years though, including that chick on the violin who looks like she's about to have a stroke any minute while playing. I do remember reading years ago how one of his band members was arrested on child molestation charges. I don't know if that was the guy he fired you were referring to though.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5513 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:18 am to
He had seats in front of me at a Phish show at Deer Creek in like 2011. Cool, huh?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59613 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Had never seen him like this, and not sure what he was going for.

Back when they knew he had talent but couldn't figure out a way to market him. Johnny Cougar, John Cougar

Before that moment he recorded this.
They scrapped this release until after he got famous.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:22 am to
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I don't know how good of a guy he is.



He lives(or used to, not sure if he still does) near some cousins of mine. We ran into him and his wife at a restaurant in Bloomington, IN around 93 or 94. He was pretty approachable and jovial. We were the only ones that talked to him though as I assumed the locals were used to seeing him around town.

I've always heard he's very loyal and protective of his bandmates. I remember when the girl that played the accordian on The Lonesome Jubilee album died in a car accident(I think) he was pretty devastated and paid for her funeral.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3329 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32513 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:14 am to
quote:

Aronoff was brought in the studio to audition, and was basically told how you fill the break with the drum solo will determine if you get the job. He played that famed drum fill on his first go and ended up being his drummer for 14 years. Apparently Mellencamp is a douche though and fired him abruptly after 14 years.

Sounds like the same story with The Black Crowes.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89622 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 6:16 am to
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Ain't Even Done With the Night.


Song is underrated.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3302 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:10 am to
Now that I think about it, a guy I worked with about 30 years ago was from Indiana. He told me he was drinking at a bar one night in Bloomington, and Cougar sat next to him and they chewed the fat for a couple hours. He had just blown up at the time, and my co-worker said you wouldn't have any idea he was a rock star if you didn't know who he was.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13995 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:48 am to
There is a reason he is credited as Little Bastard when he produced his albums. There are legitimate reasons why he has that nickname and the scale balance between the positive and negative reasons pretty closely. He doesn't take shite and he doesn't give shite. He is not an egomaniac but he is a perfectionist. He is loyal but also very demanding. He doesn't care about your feelings and he doesn't care if you care about his. His politics have changed but nothing else about him has. If Trump had came around in the 80s Cougar would have loved him.


BTW the previous paragraph also does a good job of explaining why every marriage he has lasts about ten years before spontaneously combusting.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13995 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:39 am to
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Had never seen him like this, and not sure what he was going for.


Nothing matters and what if it did?
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9441 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Ain't Even Done With the Night.

quote:

Song is underrated.

Yes it is. By far my favorite John Cougar Mellencamp song
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4452 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 8:40 pm to
Small Paradise
Favorite of his
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
3790 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 9:00 pm to
Finally saw him a few years ago when he did a tour with Willie and Dylan... He was the highlight of the evening
Posted by Hook Echo
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:59 am to
This is my favorite Mellencamp song, and I love this version from his MTv Unplugged appearance.


Minutes To Memories
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:08 am to
And wow, I was at this concert. Just happened to be in Indiana for a family funeral and cousins had tickets. We were way up in the rafters.

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