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Is the general consensus that it was a tie?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:24 am
See a lot of hate on Trump’s performance here, but on other sites it seems that people are just talking about how bad the moderation was or that both candidates are pretty bad. Nobody really saying that Biden killed it.
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:25 am to Clemsontigers02
Every poll I've seen about debate performance shows Trump as winning the debate. 
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 8:25 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:25 am to Clemsontigers02
Tie goes to the incumbent IMHO.
If a challenger can’t prove they should be in the big job, a tie doesn’t help them.
If a challenger can’t prove they should be in the big job, a tie doesn’t help them.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:26 am to Clemsontigers02
I personally think they cancelled each other out.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:28 am to teke184
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e goes to the incumbent IMHO.
Not if we are to believe the media narrative that Biden has a comfortable lead at the moment.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:31 am to Clemsontigers02
The hate on Trump primarily revolves around how people think other people felt about it.
Or they think he should have addressed white supremacy differently... even though Wallace is who labeled proud boys white supremacists (many arent even white).
Otherwise, everyone who doesn’t actually follow politics is somehow still surprised that American presidential debates aren’t jam packed with policy debate and facts. Simply put... thats not a thing and hasn’t been for a long long time. The format itself does not lend well to any meaningful policy discussion. And 75+ percent of the american people can’t understand the details anyway.
Or they think he should have addressed white supremacy differently... even though Wallace is who labeled proud boys white supremacists (many arent even white).
Otherwise, everyone who doesn’t actually follow politics is somehow still surprised that American presidential debates aren’t jam packed with policy debate and facts. Simply put... thats not a thing and hasn’t been for a long long time. The format itself does not lend well to any meaningful policy discussion. And 75+ percent of the american people can’t understand the details anyway.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:31 am to GeneralLee
Look at the polling for most races in the last 40-50 years.
The Dem typically starts out with a huge lead and, in many cases, ends up not only losing but losing badly.
1988 is probably the most telling with Dukakis having about a 55-38 lead on Bush 41 then getting trounced on election night. Dukakis was never up by that much but pollsters attempted to create that image.
The Dem typically starts out with a huge lead and, in many cases, ends up not only losing but losing badly.
1988 is probably the most telling with Dukakis having about a 55-38 lead on Bush 41 then getting trounced on election night. Dukakis was never up by that much but pollsters attempted to create that image.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:32 am to GeneralLee
No, even the media was scared by what they physically saw from Joe last night. You could tell by the push to cancel further debates.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:33 am to Clemsontigers02
No tie. America lost
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:34 am to Clemsontigers02
quote:
Is the general consensus that it was a tie?
Every post debate commentary states Trump won. Even CNN, which is shocking.
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This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 8:36 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:36 am to teke184
quote:media still doing it
1988 is probably the most telling with Dukakis having about a 55-38 lead on Bush 41 then getting trounced on election night. Dukakis was never up by that much but pollsters attempted to create that image.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:39 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Surprisingly he won 66% to 34% among Telemundo's audience
Every poll I've seen about debate performance shows Trump as winning the debate.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:42 am to Clemsontigers02
quote:
Is the general consensus that it was a tie?
I think the consensus is that it was an overall shite show, Wallace was biased, Trump is a man with balls and Biden is old and way past it.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:44 am to imjustafatkid
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Every poll I've seen about debate performance shows Trump as winning the debate
Links?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:45 am to Clemsontigers02
General consensus is Trump lost.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:48 am to LuckyTiger
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I personally think they cancelled each other out.
I don't remember which poll, but one pundit said it was 1/3 Trump, 1/3 Biden and 1/3 neither.
Probably pretty accurate.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:48 am to Clemsontigers02
Biden not being able to list a law enforcement endorsement was the biggest blow landed in the debate. Any fair-minded person has to say Trump won based on the sheer force of that shot alone.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 8:55 am to Jon Ham
What bubble are you living in?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:10 am to 4evrlsu
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Links?
Someone already linked one in response to the comment you responded to.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:14 am to Clemsontigers02
"General consensus"? Can you give me an example of a consensus that is NOT general?
This is like calling someone your cousin relative, or your father relative. "Relative", like "general" in "general consensus" is a useless redundancy.
This is like calling someone your cousin relative, or your father relative. "Relative", like "general" in "general consensus" is a useless redundancy.
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