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re: Do any resident dems actually believe Trump disparaged our fallen soldiers?
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:50 pm to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:50 pm to Midget Death Squad
They know it's bullshite but many of them will never admit it. The only thing more loathsome and gross than the left wing media is the left wingers who support it. Just a bunch of disgusting useless people
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:16 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
aye
Guarantees in life: death, taxes, and TigerDoc loving him some anonymous sauces
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:17 pm to Midget Death Squad
Yes, they do. I talk to one today.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:24 pm to ProfFrink
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No, without actual full audio there is nothing but a bs claim.
Trump supporters would either say it's fake or say it's taken out of context.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:28 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Trump supporters would either say it's fake or say it's taken out of context.
Like he said himself, he can shoot someone on the street and they would vote for him.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:49 pm to Midget Death Squad
He and Melania have meet every hero flight in to Andrews since he's been in office. 0% chance he said that about Americans in a French cemetery.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:55 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Yeah, the refusal to admit that his saying that is disgraceful is a weird hill to die on for his supporters.
When Trump made the comment about McCain I thought it was way out of line. Then I learned that at the time Trump said it McCain was actively conspiring with foreign intelligence services to overthrow the Republic. That mitigates the comment considerably for those of us opposed to treason.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:58 pm to shinerfan
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Then I learned that at the time Trump said it McCain was actively conspiring with foreign intelligence services to overthrow the Republic.
Damn, seems like that would be the easy thing to focus his insults on then instead of Indirectly disparaging all POWs
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:58 pm to Midget Death Squad
Even Bolton said it’s not true and he’s the Dems go to on anti Trump insider nonsense.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:01 pm to tijervait
And like Dems do every single day, make some shite up and claim accusation = guilt, but only if it’s a conservative.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:08 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Trump supporters would either say it's fake or say it's taken out of context.
no i'm saying like everything else you unemployed worthless bags of schit do, it's completely made up. just like muh russia!
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:37 pm to Midget Death Squad
SoUrCeS sAy ThE bAd OrAnGe MaN
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:49 pm to gthog61
• ?Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29, Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing
• ?In May 2020, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits
• ?The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government
• ?Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew.
• ?After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"
• ?On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"
• ?Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve
• ?Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11
• ?Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience
• ?Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."
• ?Pardoned multiple war criminals, which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command. (May&Nov, 2019)
• ?Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion
• ?Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.
• ?There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported.
• ?Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built
• ?On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.
• ?Trump sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11
• ?In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.
• ?In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.
• ?In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running the VA, are rampant with meddling. They had no experience in the VA, none of them even served in the military nor underwent any approval process. Yet they directed operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show.
• ?Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property
• ?Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
• ?On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
• ?On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals
• ?Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
• ?Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)
• ?Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
• ?In June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"
• ?Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)
• ?Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)
• ?Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)
• ?On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain
• ?Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)
• ?Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)
• ?deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
• ?On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral
• ?Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise
• ?banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)
• ?denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)
• ?tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)
• ?When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019)
• ?He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)
• ?increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)
• ?finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)
• ?He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)
• ?Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.
• ?He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays
• ?He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)
• ?He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)
• ?He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)
• ?He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)
• ?While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)
• ?He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)
• ?He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)
• ?In May 2020, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits
• ?The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government
• ?Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew.
• ?After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"
• ?On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"
• ?Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve
• ?Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11
• ?Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience
• ?Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."
• ?Pardoned multiple war criminals, which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command. (May&Nov, 2019)
• ?Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion
• ?Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.
• ?There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported.
• ?Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built
• ?On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.
• ?Trump sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11
• ?In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.
• ?In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.
• ?In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running the VA, are rampant with meddling. They had no experience in the VA, none of them even served in the military nor underwent any approval process. Yet they directed operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show.
• ?Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property
• ?Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
• ?On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
• ?On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals
• ?Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
• ?Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)
• ?Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
• ?In June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"
• ?Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)
• ?Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)
• ?Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)
• ?On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain
• ?Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)
• ?Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)
• ?deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
• ?On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral
• ?Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise
• ?banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)
• ?denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)
• ?tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)
• ?When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019)
• ?He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)
• ?increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)
• ?finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)
• ?He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)
• ?Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.
• ?He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays
• ?He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)
• ?He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)
• ?He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)
• ?He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)
• ?While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)
• ?He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)
• ?He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:50 pm to The Drink
Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018)
• ?Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)
• ?Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)
• ?He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)
• ?"They knew what they signed up for." – Donald Trump re: dead troops (10/18/17)
• ?He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sent contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission bc Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)
• ?blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)
• ?ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)
• ?deported veterans (2017-present)
• ?said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)
• ?On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong
• ?Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)
• ?Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)
• ?In Jan 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)
• ?Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)
• ?Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)
• ?Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)
• ?For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991
• ?Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
• ?No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service
• ?Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)
• ?Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)
• ?He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)
• ?"They knew what they signed up for." – Donald Trump re: dead troops (10/18/17)
• ?He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sent contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission bc Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)
• ?blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)
• ?ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)
• ?deported veterans (2017-present)
• ?said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)
• ?On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong
• ?Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)
• ?Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)
• ?In Jan 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)
• ?Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)
• ?Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)
• ?Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)
• ?For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991
• ?Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
• ?No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:55 pm to Fun Bunch
i personally didnt care for the McCain comments (but whatever), but those were not even remotely close to what is being alleged here.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 5:56 pm to Midget Death Squad
I am a Vietnam combat veteran and can guaran-goddamn-tee you that these same left wing assholes, calling out Trump, have been figuratively and literally calling me a “sucker” for more than 50 years.
The hypocrisy galls me to no end. I expect some Antifa type to spray paint “sucker” on my headstone.
The hypocrisy galls me to no end. I expect some Antifa type to spray paint “sucker” on my headstone.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 6:00 pm to MDB
Decades ago, McCain, or perhaps Jeremiah Denton, said he was not a hero for being a Vietnam POW and that he was a failure. Getting shot down was a failure, the real heroes got their planes back safely.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 6:00 pm to Midget Death Squad
Trump probably said something unclear or misunderstood and the anti Trumpers who were around at the time completely misconstrued his comments into the BS we’re hearing today.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 6:01 pm to Midget Death Squad
Of course he did.
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