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re: Public school teachers are underpaid and under appreciated

Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:43 am to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:43 am to
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you can weed out bad teachers and improve the overall level of education. How do you go about doing that?

Get rid of the teachers union.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:47 am to
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The amount of bullshite they put up with is crazy. Most of y’all wouldn’t last a week in an elementary school.

And most of those teachers wouldn’t last a week on a construction site.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:48 am to
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This is beside the point. We want our kids (or I do anyway) to receive excellent education. How do you incentivize good people to go into anything? Money is certainly right up there. So it makes sense to pay them well.



Well, then the requirements for becoming a teacher should more stringent

As it stands, it’s one of, if not the easiest programs to graduate in.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:52 am to
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Get rid of the teachers union.



I get the shite for teachers unions around here. But given how sue happy parents can be for shite as simple as breaking up a fight, I can understand not wanting to work without one. Without that representation, district are quick to throw a teacher under the bus even when its their own policy failure that leads to issues.

The largest issues in public school districts today is this:

- School districts need to grow a sack and tell parents to frick off every once and a while. Stop settling bullshite lawsuits because your kid's arm got bruised when his teacher grabbed him to stop him from curbstomping another kid.

- Now that eSchool options are becoming more prevalant, we need to start handing kids who do nothing but disrupt classrooms an eSchool login and tell their parents to have at it. Removing extremely disruptive students would eliminate more than half of your issues in public school classrooms.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:53 am to
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As it stands, it’s one of, if not the easiest programs to graduate in.


Completely agree. It has become a glorified babysitter position, particularly in elementary school, so you have utter idiots teaching 4th graders about math concepts that will be the foundation upon which they eventually learn calculus. That’s frightening.

And they all teach to a test rather than to understanding.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
30855 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:16 am to
Yet got paid 3 months this year without going to work
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:21 am to
I suggest finding a better paying job problem solved
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3616 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:22 am to
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8 hours a day


OP, obviously, is talking out of his arse, and does not know any teachers.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:24 am to
Public school teachers are just fine. The real travesty is New Orleans Archdiocese teachers get about half of public school. For the cost of tuition these teachers really don’t make shite.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48354 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:25 am to
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Your logic is sort of odd. By your account, we should make the teaching job more attractive and rewarding for good teachers. In turn, you can weed out bad teachers and improve the overall level of education. How do you go about doing that?



Get rid of teachers’ unions
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
3672 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:41 am to
It’s not hard to show up, read from a book, tell kids to sit down, and if they become a problem send them to someone else (the office) to deal with.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30855 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:45 am to
yet in the US we spend the 4th most per student on public education...

where does the money go.. and what do we get...
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:48 am to
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10 months a year. 8 hours a day. Shitty parents who won’t invest their time into education, but send their kid to school sick as hell.

$20k-$40k a year. It’s turned into a glorified underpaid daycare.


According to the National Education Association, the average salary for a teacher in the US was $60,477 a year for the 2017-18 school year.

My youngest two are in school at their Catholic grammar school today. The school spends less than half of the Orleans Parish school district's spending per student of $21,114. Orleans is offering a PATHETIC online program while my kids are at least approaching normal by being back with their friends. The teachers at the school make the same or even less than their public school counterparts and I have not heard ONE complain about coming back.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48993 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:49 am to
They don't have to become a teacher ya know.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
59913 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:50 am to
teachers suck pre teen penis.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39814 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:53 am to
Did yall know teachers have the hardest job in the world and that they are the ones most affected by Covid?
Posted by ShakeandBake
Member since Aug 2019
1164 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:58 am to
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where does the money go.. and what do we get...


Into overpaid administration positions. And the return is next to nothing.

Local governments employ mostly morons and lazy bastards who can’t get a job in the private sector. So you can imagine how terrible a job they do at running a school system.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:59 am to
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10 months a year. 8 hours a day.
Subtract all the holidays and summer then get back to me.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8340 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:02 am to
My wife is a teacher and loved her job up until this year. The stuff they're being asked to do, and the pressure parents are putting on them to be nurses, janitors, and babysitters on top of actual teaching is pretty sad.

It will prob be her last year. We dont need the money and its not worth dealing with an army of Karens every day.

Like she often says, most of the kids are great. Its the parents that she has issues with.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 9:04 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9961 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:28 am to
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10 months a year. 8 hours a day

quote:

$20k-$40k a year.

quote:

teachers are underpaid


Let me see if I have this right:
Upon entering college to obtain a degree in education, do teachers not do ANY research into the income of that career???

I'm sorry. I have zero sympathy
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