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re: To those who have lost someone to suicide

Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25446 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:58 pm to
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Lost a brother to suicide a few weeks ago. He had tried before, so it wasn't totally unexpected, I guess.

People handle depression differently. Some people like to talk about their problems, but it seems like most internalize everything.


I am so sorry for your loss. I know your family is probably going through a nightmare now. We’ll keep you in our prayers.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36746 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:01 pm to
Thanks for sharing. Very powerful image.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:03 pm to
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The most self centered thing you can do in your life that will haunt your family forever.
Keep talking.

One thing I've come to learn is that in life, a man is either lucky (and therefore ignorant in his bliss), young (or died young and never knew), or "one in a million lucky" if on his dying day he doesn't experience in some shape, form or fashion what every other man who ever lived experienced in the form of grief and tragedy and hard times. Whether it be losing a family member, friend or acquaintance to drug abuse, suicide or losing a job, we all walk the same walk in our own little way.

One day, don't be surprised when these words come back to haunt you and you have to question whether or not a man that you hung your star on was as self-centered as you so unabashedly, so completely and so finally claim he is- claiming like you're claiming right here and now.

Keep talking your ignorance.

Keep talking your denial of the realities of life.

You'll learn. Guys like you always do.

You always do.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:04 pm to
Yes, My son took his life and on the 12 of this month will make 3 years. He had problems, but we were there for him and got as much help as we could do. He was a person that would give his last dollar or his shirt off his back to a stranger if needed.

Every day I think of him and even more of what else I could of done.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:05 pm to
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This is exactly right.



Every single day I wish I didn’t have this level of familiarity.

It’s a special kind of pain to walk up to a loved one in a park, have enough of an empathetic nature to catch them obstinately continue to read their book while they prepare their mask at the approach of someone unknown, and then have them look up when they are ready only to see a trusted individual that they don’t need to hold that mask quite so tightly.



This is obviously the romanticized depiction of the experience.

It doesn’t cover the fun of knowing they are in a bad place in a given night and lying in bed powerless and wondering if you will find out tomorrow that they slit their wrists.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6242 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:08 pm to
My uncle shot himself around 60 years old. I don’t think he could ever really find a purpose in life , bounced around odd jobs, was divorced. Had a lot of physical pains. He was pretty manic the last few months and then he would just sleep most of the day before his suicide, it was pretty odd, just not like him. He would always be doing some kind of work or activity. My mom said he was depressed most of his life, talked about suicide a lot. If someone talks about it like he did, they’ll eventually do it and there’s honestly no way to stop them. They’ll find a way. Nothing we could do to stop it. Just glad he didn’t take anyone else with him.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:11 pm to
Well, I am 63 and yes, I am ready.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:13 pm to
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Sorry man, I hope you’re doing ok


Thanks so much. I really appreciate the kind words.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5184 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:14 pm to
I, unfortunately, have known 17 people who have committed suicide. Some as teenagers, some as young adults, and 4 as grown men with kids. When I went through my divorce, not having my kids had me contemplating it. Having been exposed to the ramifications of suicide and how damaging it is to those left behind was my saving grace. Ordinarily I’m a very confident guy, but imagining life without my kids was a severe gut punch. I allowed myself to wallow in self pity to the point I could not see daylight. I, like most I’ve known that committed suicide, hid it - or covered it up. This is not the answer. If you’re feeling depressed find someone to talk too and stay occupied. It will get better.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:16 pm to
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have enough of an empathetic nature
Exactly.

Some childish boy on this thread mentioned something about the selfishness of men who are struggling and succumbing to suicide "not having empathy," nor a view of "the bigger picture," and I just shook my head: It's the exact opposite in every way possible.

To "know the bigger picture" is to know that it is futile - all of it.

But what do you for a fool?

Except to feel sorry for (and envy) his blissful ignorance and selfishness towards the plight of others?

It must be a wonderful way to live.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
1964 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:29 pm to
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My question is were there any signs leading up to it


One of my best friends committed suicide in 2017. I saw him 3 days prior at a mutual friend’s wedding shower. He seemed like himself and left early because he wanted to look at a house he was interested in. That was the last time I saw him.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57529 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:50 pm to
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The most self centered thing you can do in your life that will haunt your family forever.

Jesus dude. You are obviously not knowledgeable on mental health.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
177160 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:55 pm to
love you
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
1599 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:10 pm to
I never saw the signs.

Sure he had issues in life. As we all do.

I just never thought he would get so low and feel like that was the only option.
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39656 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:19 pm to
I have seen a lot of it as a vet and nobody seems to care about it. I am guessing but I know a couple dozen off the top of my head.

I’ve heard people say fricked up shite and got pisssed off at them for saying it but never thought they would do it but did.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5124 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:46 pm to
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The most self centered thing you can do in your life that will haunt your family forever.


This is not the way suicidal people think. They often feel that they have a burden that they don't want to put on others. They feel that suicide is their way of helping loved ones not have to deal with "my" problems. "I'm sacrificing my life to make it easier on you. It may hurt you in the short term, but it's better for you in the long term."

These are the ones that you don't see coming. They don't want to display that there are issues, so you don't know that they are there.
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19424 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:52 pm to
Lost one person I would say I was close to by Suicide, older guy(in his 60’s). Super rich, had a couple grandkids he loved to death but didn’t get to see much. Beat cancer once, had a new girlfriend he loved, they were supposed to go on a cruise together soon.

Found out his cancer was back(and very bad) and took his own life. I miss him.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40951 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:54 pm to
I’m living for other people at this point, mainly my parents. Also, I’m scared of not succeeding and leaving myself permanently disabled or in pain. I was in an outpatient mental health program right before Covid and since then things are just getting worse. I’ve done everything to try and get help and it’s come to the point where no one can help me anymore except myself and I just can’t. I dread each day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85487 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:56 pm to
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I’m living for other people at this point, mainly my parents. Also, I’m scared of not succeeding and leaving myself permanently disabled or in pain. I was in an outpatient mental health program right before Covid and since then things are just getting worse. I’ve done everything to try and get help and it’s come to the point where no one can help me anymore except myself and I just can’t. I dread each day.


Got damn man, I hope things get better and do so quickly.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85487 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:10 am to
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I, unfortunately, have known 17 people who have committed suicide.


Man, reading through this thread makes me super appreciative to have the friends and acquaintances I have. I'm actually a little shocked how many of you seem to have dealt with suicide on a substantial level.
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