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re: Earlier interview of BLM protester who was killed in Austin last night carrying his AK47
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:13 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:13 am to Jcorye1
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The ones I've seen are showing it pointed down, and looking really damn close to him shouldering it,
It seems like that was taken from a video. Where the hell is that video? It's crazy that it's not out there.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:30 am to SUB
Is his quad wife in between him and car? Perhaps her wheelchair is hindering him from shouldering rifle.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:01 am to SUB
Update
Article
Daniel Perry, an active duty sergeant with the United States Army and former Eagle Scout from the North Texas area.
Shooter's account of what happened
Details confirmed by Austin Police
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Daniel Perry, an active duty sergeant with the United States Army and former Eagle Scout from the North Texas area.
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The man who says he shot and killed Austin protester Garrett Foster revealed his identity late Thursday night in an email from his attorney to KXAN. The email identified that shooter as Daniel Perry.
Austin police have not yet confirmed Perry or anyone else as a suspect in the shooting.
Perry’s attorney says the shooting was in self defense.
Austin Police Chief Brian Manley says that’s when the driver fired five shots from inside the vehicle, hitting Foster multiple times. Foster never fired a shot. Another protester then shot at the car three times, but did not hit anyone.
Shooter's account of what happened
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The statement says Perry was driving for a rideshare company when he dropped a client off near Congress Avenue. He was looking for another request for pickup or food delivery when he turned right onto Congress Avenue from Fourth Street.
That’s when he encountered the group of protesters.
“Prior to arriving at the corner of Fourth Street and Congress Avenue, Sgt. Perry did not know that a demonstration was taking place,” the statement says.
“When Sgt. Perry turned on the Congress Avenue, several people started beating on his
vehicle. An individual carrying an assault rifle, now known to be Garrett Foster, quickly approached the car and then motioned with the assault rifle for Mr. Perry to lower his window,” which the attorney says Perry did, thinking the gunman was a police officer.
The attorney says Foster then began to raise his weapon, and Perry shot and fired. Perry drove a short distance away to safety while another protester shot at him. He then called police.
The attorney’s statement says Perry “deeply sympathizes” with the Foster family but then concluded with a plea to the public:
“We simply ask that anybody who might want to criticize Sgt. Perry’s actions, picture themselves trapped in a car as a masked stranger raises an assault rifle in their direction and reflect upon what they might have done if faced with the split second decision faced by Sgt. Perry that evening.”
Details confirmed by Austin Police
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Many of the details in the attorney statement align with what Austin police say the driver who shot Garrett Foster told them.
“During the initial investigation of this incident, it appears Mr. Foster may have pointed his rifle at the driver of this vehicle prior to being shot,” Chief Manley said in an update about the shooting on Sunday.
The chief elaborated that the driver’s account is that “Mr. Foster pointed the weapon directly at him.”
After the shooting, Chief Manley confirmed that a person did call 911, saying someone approached the driver-side window of their vehicle and pointed a rifle at them.
The department says both Perry and the second shooter have concealed handgun licenses. At this point, no one has been charged in connection to this incident.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 9:07 am
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:06 am to SUB
sounds like the only criminal already paid his debt with his life.
edit: I forgot about the person who shot at the car as it drove away. he should be charged with attempted murder
edit: I forgot about the person who shot at the car as it drove away. he should be charged with attempted murder
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:08 am to YumYum Sauce
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If you are in a vehicle and someone approaches you with a rifle pointing at your face, are you allowed to open fire?
This is the reality and it's a close call and something gun advocates should talk about.
On one hand, I support people I disagree with politically exercising their 2A rights. I think we have to do so and do so publicly.
On the other hand, when you're caring a "military styled rifle" in a crowd of belligerent people, during a time when such crowds/protests are engaging in violence against innocents, you're taking a risk. I reject the idea that people should be inherently fearful of weapons based on ignorance/appearance.
But I think the practical and legal reality is that if you carry an AR or an AK in public, and you get into a tight spot or conflict, it's not unreasonable that someone may have a strong case against you for self defense, even where you (AR/AK carrier) aren't intending to pose a threat.
And while the protests/riots context should matter, right wing protestors and random idiots who want to exercise their rights by taking an AR into Starbucks should remember this is a gamble they're taking too.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:08 am to SUB
Yeah. This dudes gonna be fine from a legal standpoint.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:26 am to Pettifogger
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right wing protestors and random idiots who want to exercise their rights by taking an AR into Starbucks should remember this is a gamble they're taking too.
Yup. It's the good for me but not thee philosophy that has permeated throughout our political discourse lately and has caused massive issues.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:30 am to SUB
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“During the initial investigation of this incident, it appears Mr. Foster MAY HAVE pointed his rifle at the driver of this vehicle prior to being shot,”
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:33 am to JG77056
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There’s pictures of the guy pointing his AK at the car and it sounds like the first 5 shots came from a rifle and the last 3 from a handgun.
I’m not going to act like an auditory ballistics expert, but he was definitely raising his rifle in a threatening manner and deserved what he got.
Don’t pull a gun on someone if you aren’t ready to face the possibility he might have better aim.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:34 am to HerkFlyer
Bro, that’s cop/investigator speak just like when they say alleged even though it looks obvious.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:34 am to Pettifogger
The shooter's story seems believable beyond a reasonable doubt. If he was a rideshare driver, one can easily confirm that he was working that night and that he just dropped off somebody nearby. I don't think that behavior is of someone who would then go trying to run over people, which didn't even happen. One eyewitness confirmed the pointing of the rifle at the driver, and then we have that photo showing the gun int he "ready" position. He shouldn't even be charged with anything but it won't surprise me if he is.
I 100% agree with the right to defend yourself in his situation. Those "protesters" had already made up their mind on why he turned down that road and what they planned on doing to him if they could get him out of his car. Unfortunately for them, they are finding out that they in fact do not own the streets as they once thought.
I 100% agree with the right to defend yourself in his situation. Those "protesters" had already made up their mind on why he turned down that road and what they planned on doing to him if they could get him out of his car. Unfortunately for them, they are finding out that they in fact do not own the streets as they once thought.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:35 am to TH03
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Don’t pull a gun on someone if you aren’t ready to face the possibility he might have better aim.
Don't try and run over his handicapped fiance if you aren't looking to start something.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:36 am to BowlJackson
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Don't try and run over his handicapped fiance if you aren't looking to start something.
I already called him a dipshit for trying to drive through there, but this is a little overboard.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:37 am to SUB
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former Eagle Scout
Once an Eagle, always an Eagle...there is no "former."
Unless he renounced his award for some reason.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:37 am to BowlJackson
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Don't try and run over his handicapped fiance if you aren't looking to start something.
Ya, because that's exactly what happened.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:41 am to TH03
I get it, it's just funny because we know damn well he did.
You come at my car with an AK in an aggressive posture(nevermind the crowd surrounding the car beating on it), you just blew your free warning shot. Doubly true if I have people I care about with me.
You come at my car with an AK in an aggressive posture(nevermind the crowd surrounding the car beating on it), you just blew your free warning shot. Doubly true if I have people I care about with me.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:43 am to BowlJackson
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Don't try and run over his handicapped fiance if you aren't looking to start something.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:46 am to SUB
The only Crime here is that an Active Duty Serviceman has to supplement his income via Uber/Lyft.
Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:47 am to LegendInMyMind
Either way the dead guy is just collateral damage from the war he and his kind have started.
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