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I don’t understand the tipping culture in regards to guides
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:52 pm
Growing up baling hay and building fence I always showed up early and busted my arse to make sure the customer was satisfied. Using my own equipment, diesel, etc. Every cost was factored in beforehand so after I paid my bills I had some money left over.
I don’t understand the tipping aspect regarding guides. I’ve seen on other forums people talk about how they get up early and scout or put in the “extra effort”. Why not factor this all into the original price.
Hearing of people discussing the going rate of tips to south texas deer guides seems odd. How much extra effort are they putting in to earn that 10-20%? People in other self employed hard jobs are not expecting that upon completion of their tasks
I don’t understand the tipping aspect regarding guides. I’ve seen on other forums people talk about how they get up early and scout or put in the “extra effort”. Why not factor this all into the original price.
Hearing of people discussing the going rate of tips to south texas deer guides seems odd. How much extra effort are they putting in to earn that 10-20%? People in other self employed hard jobs are not expecting that upon completion of their tasks
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:01 pm to texag7
Owner/guide is different than a rich dude who employees guides.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:24 pm to texag7
A lot of the time the guides only get payed by tips. Also, would you rather be stuck with an a-hole the whole time hunting or someone that tries to make sure you are having the best time you can.
Do you tip a crappy waitress the same amount as the waitress that you hope you get every time you go to your favorite restraint?
Do you tip a crappy waitress the same amount as the waitress that you hope you get every time you go to your favorite restraint?
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:30 pm to texag7
I have no issue tipping a guide extra if I feel that they’ve busted their butt trying to put us on fish.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:38 pm to bbvdd
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I have no issue tipping a guide extra if I feel that they’ve busted their butt trying to put us on fish.
Isn't that their job?
How exactly are they busting their butts taking you to the same spot they take everyone else?
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:38 pm to bbvdd
I have hunted and fished with a handful of guides. Enough to know that there have been a couple that I still talk to years later and a couple that I wouldn’t stop on the side of the road to help.
If you feel like you have received good service tip. If not, then you know the rest. There’s been a couple times I didn’t tip and will never feel the slightest bit bad about it.
If you feel like you have received good service tip. If not, then you know the rest. There’s been a couple times I didn’t tip and will never feel the slightest bit bad about it.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:46 pm to Purple Spoon
I've helped guide ducks and been around more lodges than you can imagine, family owned a trout dock on the Norfork river for 40 years.
Guides make most of their money from tips. A good guide can make bad conditions serviceable or good conditions great. A bad guide is a waste of oxygen.
If you can't afford the tip you can't afford the trip. Now if the guide blows fine don't tip, but a good one deserves it.
Guides make most of their money from tips. A good guide can make bad conditions serviceable or good conditions great. A bad guide is a waste of oxygen.
If you can't afford the tip you can't afford the trip. Now if the guide blows fine don't tip, but a good one deserves it.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:53 pm to texag7
I never heard of tipping a guide until someone asked what they should tip for an inshore trip. The guide sets the price, they own their boat, they know their costs. If they can't make money on X amount of money charge me X50. Don't expect a tip for an owner/operator guide service. Now I do understand tipping a good deck hand on an offshore trip, but the boat owner/operator needs to charge what he needs to for the trip.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:12 pm to texag7
I dont get it either but I I very rarely ever do it.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:44 pm to texag7
Box stand hunting isnt real hunting but if i get a fee trip from a vendor im gonna do it. I'm not gonna tip a guy for dropping me off at a box stand. If he built the box stand the day before and cleared a sendero specifically for me then yeah, I might tip. If it's a legit hunt or fishing trip and the guide has to employ some actual skill then yeah I'd be likely to tip.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:52 pm to texag7
Hmmm, while I have very few “my” clients the ones I do have are friends now and appreciate the job I do for them. Most of the time I’m fishing for someone else and don’t get the full rate charged. Tip or not, you’re going to get 100% when we leave the dock but it may be the last if you’re a turd.
I’m fishing a client from Waco am that was cancelled on the way to dularge. Didn’t plan to fish tomorrow but this guy and his group are fun and tip really well. TxAg, come fish with me and if you don’t have a great time it’s on the house.
Good Night
I’m fishing a client from Waco am that was cancelled on the way to dularge. Didn’t plan to fish tomorrow but this guy and his group are fun and tip really well. TxAg, come fish with me and if you don’t have a great time it’s on the house.
Good Night
Posted on 7/24/20 at 10:19 pm to TideSaint
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How exactly are they busting their butts taking you to the same spot they take everyone else?
Wanna know how I know you’ve never been with a decent fishing guide?
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:07 am to bbvdd
Man this board sure does hate guides. I wonder why.
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:18 am to TideSaint
quote:If y'all are having a rough day(bad conditions for fishing), a shitty guide is going to take you to 3-4 different spots to try and grind out a morning. Then at 4 hours on the dot they are going to take you back and say "sorry guys, you picked a bad day to fish. Better luck next time." It's minimal effort from him, and he saves a bunch in gas money.
How exactly are they busting their butts taking you to the same spot they take everyone else?
A guide who is busting his arse is going to bring you to as many spots as he can in order to put you on fish. They will also stay out after your morning trip has technically ended to try and put a few more fish in the box. Doing that burns a lot more gas and takes a lot more effort from that guide.
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:26 am to KemoSabe65
KemoSabe where do you work out of?
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:30 pm to texag7
I’ve probably gone on one or more outfitted/guided hunts a year for the past two decades.
I guided hunters on a hog hunting plantation in GA for a time. Even dabbled with guiding Osceola turkey hunts a decade ago. So I’m probably sympathetic to Guides.
Tipping is a deeply personal decision. Some people do it and some people do not.
Guides often are paid by the outfitter on a per day basis. Sometimes it’s not much and the tips are how the Guides truly make their money. I’ve also hunted with an Outfitter that demanded that the hunters not tip the guides. He said he pays them a good wage and that keeping gratuities out of the equation keeps them all working as hard as they can and as a team.
I let the level of service dictate my decision to tip. If you are hunting whitetails the guides job may effectively be as a chauffeur bringing you to and from a stand. They then sit around camp all day until you call or nightfall. Others are glassing all day long so they are still working for you even though you aren’t together.
I’ve hunted out West a few times and met my guide days before the season opens to scout from daylight to sundown. Once the game is harvested they may very well have a pack full of meat on their back for the hike out too.
Even if I come up empty, if I truly believe they worked hard I’m gonna leave a tip. Hunting has got a lot more expensive in recent years. I don’t think using a percentage based scale works any more. So I generally limit my tip for the Guide to $100-150 a day at most. I always remember to tip the Camp Chef too. Cash is always preferred.
I guided hunters on a hog hunting plantation in GA for a time. Even dabbled with guiding Osceola turkey hunts a decade ago. So I’m probably sympathetic to Guides.
Tipping is a deeply personal decision. Some people do it and some people do not.
Guides often are paid by the outfitter on a per day basis. Sometimes it’s not much and the tips are how the Guides truly make their money. I’ve also hunted with an Outfitter that demanded that the hunters not tip the guides. He said he pays them a good wage and that keeping gratuities out of the equation keeps them all working as hard as they can and as a team.
I let the level of service dictate my decision to tip. If you are hunting whitetails the guides job may effectively be as a chauffeur bringing you to and from a stand. They then sit around camp all day until you call or nightfall. Others are glassing all day long so they are still working for you even though you aren’t together.
I’ve hunted out West a few times and met my guide days before the season opens to scout from daylight to sundown. Once the game is harvested they may very well have a pack full of meat on their back for the hike out too.
Even if I come up empty, if I truly believe they worked hard I’m gonna leave a tip. Hunting has got a lot more expensive in recent years. I don’t think using a percentage based scale works any more. So I generally limit my tip for the Guide to $100-150 a day at most. I always remember to tip the Camp Chef too. Cash is always preferred.
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:41 pm to texag7
Duck and goose guides don’t make much so tips a very much appreciated. Half the sports are fricking nightmares to deal with so guides definitely deserve the lil extra
Offshore fishing tip the deckhand he basically does all the work.
Offshore fishing tip the deckhand he basically does all the work.
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:20 pm to texag7
I don’t have a problem tipping a hunting guide that puts me on birds or game, they work their tail off. I have never tipped a fishing guide in my life and I’ve been on a lot of trips. Anyone who wants to catch fish on my local lakes, I could put them on fish... it’s not that hard, they just have the geographical advantage.
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