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Slicing the driver
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:57 pm
I can hit my irons fine. Of course I miss hit and hit them fat or thin some , but at least I understand what to do. And the more i play the better I get at hitting them.
But the driver feels like some sort of magical wizardry. If I want to hit it hard it slices further than anything. And often that is on the sweet spot with a hit that feels good.
If I get all tight and overly concentrate, I can hit it crappy and straight. But it rarely feels good.
How can I have a free, loose drive without freaking slicing? I’m assuming I go over the top.
How do I get in the slot?
Drill suggestions??
But the driver feels like some sort of magical wizardry. If I want to hit it hard it slices further than anything. And often that is on the sweet spot with a hit that feels good.
If I get all tight and overly concentrate, I can hit it crappy and straight. But it rarely feels good.
How can I have a free, loose drive without freaking slicing? I’m assuming I go over the top.
How do I get in the slot?
Drill suggestions??
Posted on 7/7/20 at 3:02 pm to BRsundog
Few of the things I did.
Closed my stance
Pointed my driver away from me at chest level and had someone pull on my arm. I then squared the face in my hand without moving my lead hand. That helped me at keeping it closed at impact.
Stopped having a high finish.
Added some lead tape to heel of driver
Closed my stance
Pointed my driver away from me at chest level and had someone pull on my arm. I then squared the face in my hand without moving my lead hand. That helped me at keeping it closed at impact.
Stopped having a high finish.
Added some lead tape to heel of driver
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 3:04 pm to BRsundog
water bottle drill. google it for guidance
Posted on 7/7/20 at 3:20 pm to BRsundog
Put the ball on the tee.
Step behind the ball and look down the hole and pick a target, dont just aim for the fairway,pick an exact target. If you hit a fade/slice ball aim a little to the left of the fairway.
Once you have your target come all the way down to a spot about a foot in front of the ball. This is your target line, this is your life line in golf, dont lose it. The entire game is based off this line.
Walk to the side of the ball and put YOUR CLUBFACE FIRST behind the ball and get it dead aiming at that spot, focus hard on the leading edge, not the top of the club, the leading edge. get it Squared up directly at that spot.
Now you are aiming at something. Bring in your right foot and then your left. Since you are not trying to a specific type of shot look down and get your feet parrallel of that target line. While glancing down at the club head look at your feet and get them exactly parallel of that line from the small target to the leading edge of the club. Try and have your entire body parallel of that target line, hips, feet, especially the shoulders.
Once you are lined up and aimed correctly your mind knows it and you can make a confident/aggressive pass at the ball.
I guarantee you are not lined up, aiming correctly with your driver.
This entire aiming, alignment process needs to be done on every single shot you hit.
Needs to be ingrained before every shot.
Step behind the ball and look down the hole and pick a target, dont just aim for the fairway,pick an exact target. If you hit a fade/slice ball aim a little to the left of the fairway.
Once you have your target come all the way down to a spot about a foot in front of the ball. This is your target line, this is your life line in golf, dont lose it. The entire game is based off this line.
Walk to the side of the ball and put YOUR CLUBFACE FIRST behind the ball and get it dead aiming at that spot, focus hard on the leading edge, not the top of the club, the leading edge. get it Squared up directly at that spot.
Now you are aiming at something. Bring in your right foot and then your left. Since you are not trying to a specific type of shot look down and get your feet parrallel of that target line. While glancing down at the club head look at your feet and get them exactly parallel of that line from the small target to the leading edge of the club. Try and have your entire body parallel of that target line, hips, feet, especially the shoulders.
Once you are lined up and aimed correctly your mind knows it and you can make a confident/aggressive pass at the ball.
I guarantee you are not lined up, aiming correctly with your driver.
This entire aiming, alignment process needs to be done on every single shot you hit.
Needs to be ingrained before every shot.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/7/20 at 3:29 pm to BRsundog
Had this problem bad and it's all but disappeared in the matter of a month or so.
I had two swing thoughts (in addition to the proper address routine mentioned above)
Get a full, smooth turn into the backswing, or feel like you are. Do this by rotating around the spine and not swaying.
In the downswing, get that weight onto your front foot.
I was 50/50 weighted, presumably due to my baseball background. When I started focusing on getting my weight shifted onto my front leg, my slice disappeared. I still have the occasional slice on #1 because we roll up and tee off and I can be pretty lazy in my swing on the first hole, but it's not a recurring issue like it was when I stared.
Coming over the top is probably the problem, but that movement is caused because your brain is compensating for something you aren't doing right prior to that movement. It's a still ball on a tee, if you look at it your brain is going to guide your hands to contact. If that contact is out to to in then it's from something you're doing prior to your arms and clubhead flying outside the path.
The other reason could be that your club face is open at impact. This could either be due to a weak grip, or the ball being too far back in your stance, thus not allowing time/distance for your swing to get the face squared. Pretty easy trial and error if this is your problem because it'll be fixed in a swing or two, so I'd probably start here
Also, try to keep your head still
I had two swing thoughts (in addition to the proper address routine mentioned above)
Get a full, smooth turn into the backswing, or feel like you are. Do this by rotating around the spine and not swaying.
In the downswing, get that weight onto your front foot.
I was 50/50 weighted, presumably due to my baseball background. When I started focusing on getting my weight shifted onto my front leg, my slice disappeared. I still have the occasional slice on #1 because we roll up and tee off and I can be pretty lazy in my swing on the first hole, but it's not a recurring issue like it was when I stared.
Coming over the top is probably the problem, but that movement is caused because your brain is compensating for something you aren't doing right prior to that movement. It's a still ball on a tee, if you look at it your brain is going to guide your hands to contact. If that contact is out to to in then it's from something you're doing prior to your arms and clubhead flying outside the path.
The other reason could be that your club face is open at impact. This could either be due to a weak grip, or the ball being too far back in your stance, thus not allowing time/distance for your swing to get the face squared. Pretty easy trial and error if this is your problem because it'll be fixed in a swing or two, so I'd probably start here
Also, try to keep your head still
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 3:34 pm to BRsundog
There are literally a dozen things that could cause a slice.
The first and easiest things to check are grip and ball position.
The first and easiest things to check are grip and ball position.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 4:06 pm to BRsundog
Go check out Rick Shiels, Alex Elliot golf and Mr. Short game on you tube. All three of those guys have good channels and have a lot of good videos. They all have a video on slicing and they all have drills to help you with slicing because it could be a number of the things like “riseupfromtherumble” stated
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 4:54 pm to BRsundog
quote:
Slicing the driver
It could be the result of 10 different things but what causes a slice doesn't change. The lower the loft of a club, the more clubface alignment at impact dictates the flight of the ball. So being square at impact on a driver is second only behind putter. Its the reason why you can open up a wedge for a flop shot, because swing path matters more.
I think the first think is alignment like someone mentioned. Next play around with ball placement in your stance, the farther up in your stance the deeper in your swing you'll be and hopefully more your club face will be closed. Then you can look at your grip, you can increase your left hand grip by putting more of it over the top of the club, so the v you make with your thumb and index is pointing more toward you right shoulder. Lastly is your club path, that's a much more difficult fix and you'll have to play around with it.
I've never had lessons, which makes it tough, but I've also gotten really good about being able to fix my swing on my own. Try some of these independently and see if they make a difference. I'll say tinker with your setup first, before you make any adjustments to your swing, much less complicated, so where you are aiming, where is the ball in your stance, how far/close are you to the ball, how upright are you, and how is your grip.
Good luck
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:03 pm to BRsundog
Set up and try to hit it hard at 1st base.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:37 pm to BRsundog
First thing I worked on, when I was slicing the ball,was my grip. I watched videos on how to have a strong grip and it helped.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:00 pm to BRsundog
For years, I hit a big fade that often would turn into a slice. Then, I blew out my right knee playing basketball. My orthopedic surgeon discouraged any activity outside of rehab. When I complained that I wanted to play golf, he stipulated “only if you keep both feet together on every shot and swing easily.” Low and behold, I started hitting a draw. This was the first step to learning about the actual mechanics (rather than perceived) of my golf swing.
As some have mentioned, avoiding a slice is mostly about proper grip, stance and aim, but until you can recognize/identify those flaws yourself and develop a fundamental routine, you may over-analyze yourself into frustration. It helps to actually experience a proper swing. Putting my feet together and swinging easily opened that door for me to understand the connection between the swing path and a proper set up.
Over time, a few swing thoughts have developed for me if I get out of sync:
- feel the club head
- relax your shoulders
- stay (or keep head) behind the ball throughout the swing
- begin the take back with your feet to a firm outside, right back heel
- begin the down swing with your feet, transferring weight to outside, left back heel
- feel hands turn over/release down target line
- finish balanced
As some have mentioned, avoiding a slice is mostly about proper grip, stance and aim, but until you can recognize/identify those flaws yourself and develop a fundamental routine, you may over-analyze yourself into frustration. It helps to actually experience a proper swing. Putting my feet together and swinging easily opened that door for me to understand the connection between the swing path and a proper set up.
Over time, a few swing thoughts have developed for me if I get out of sync:
- feel the club head
- relax your shoulders
- stay (or keep head) behind the ball throughout the swing
- begin the take back with your feet to a firm outside, right back heel
- begin the down swing with your feet, transferring weight to outside, left back heel
- feel hands turn over/release down target line
- finish balanced
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:08 pm to BRsundog
Loosen your grip. A lot of times when I am slicing the ball it’s because I am gripping the club way too hard because I am nervous or worried. Loosen up your grip so your clubhead can naturally release
It’s harder than it sounds, you have to make a conscious thought to loosen your grip before you swing
It’s harder than it sounds, you have to make a conscious thought to loosen your grip before you swing
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:19 pm to BRsundog
If irons are fine, but driver is garbage I would look at your shaft in driver. Also grip size. Smaller grips help with slice, fatter grips help with hooks. I have midsize plus two wraps on my irons, hook vanished. With your slice I'd be willing to bet a stiffer shaft and smaller grip would eliminate it. Go get fitted and let them put you in the right equipment.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:13 pm to BRsundog
Think about baseball and moving a runner over to third base. Focus on hitting the ball to 2nd base. It forces you to attack the ball from the inside. It worked for me.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:55 am to BRsundog
Easiest fix that I've found is to put an alignment stick at the 4 oclock (ball is 12) with tip pointing at the ball. Now keep your hands on the inside of that line. It'll force you to come way to the inside and eliminates the over the top. You really have to rotate to keep the hands to the inside.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:30 am to guedeaux
quote:
water bottle drill. google it for guidance
agreed.........it forces you to keep the right elbow into your ribs as to not hit the back bottle.......but you also have to square up at impact and start throwing it out to not hit the bottle out front. it has helped me, as well as using head covers under each armpit during range hitting.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 12:46 pm to BRsundog
Wait until you can have a free loose swing and start hitting it left. You'll pray for slices
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:26 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Wait until you can have a free loose swing and start hitting it left. You'll pray for slices
fricking this right here
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