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re: What's the argument for the Mississippi flag to not be changed?

Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Actually it is my business. I don't currently live there but I support an institution of the state.


None you business.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Funny enough that was actually their flag from 1861-1865, they didn't have an official flag from the end of the Civil War until 1894 when the current one was made apparently
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:38 pm to
I’m with you. I just don’t see the need to be displaying the confederate flag at the state level period. The monuments I’m fine with because those guys played into local history and such. There’s no reason to be paying homage to the confederate flag though.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22340 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:38 pm to
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No one is saying that the Civil War didn't happen or that the Confederacy didn't exist.
Yes, and no one is saying the confederacy didn’t lose, that all very much happened.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
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I mean, I have no allegiances to this state other than I get a paycheck.

I just think it's funny that people are losing their minds over the possibility that it's changing.





Obviously, it has importance to them, and because it’s more that a place to get a paycheck and they are Permanent residents of the state, it stands to reason it’s important to them.

Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Keep trying to stay relevant.


You've definitely got the sports thing figured out up there.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
73855 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Yes, and no one is saying the confederacy didn’t lose, that all very much happened.



I know, that's my point.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9873 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
They should just replace the confederate flag with the US flag.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36469 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Because white people get upset if they can't remind black people that they were slaves.


Pretty sure Black people remind more people of that than anyone.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68059 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:50 pm to
Actually kind of a nice little flag. Update the look fo the magnolia and I think it looks very cool. I really like the border and lone star in the corner.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10571 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:53 pm to
My heritage exists regardless of what flag flies on a pole.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:53 pm to
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I really like the border and lone star in the corner.


Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3028 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:54 pm to
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So yes, you can look at the flag and deduce that the majority of voters care more about waving their five year "confederate heritage" around rather than a flag that represents the state as it is today.


These are one in the same though. The state didn’t just poof into thin air. It has a heritage and history to it, just like everything else. That’s just as much part of the state as anything else currently.

I’m merely stating the MO for the other side, as I believe that wanton destruction of history, akin to book burning, will provoke opposition from a large number of people, regardless of what it represents.

I have no ties to MIssissippi or it’s flag, and don’t really care about it one way or another. That doesn’t mean I can’t despise the way the other side are going about things.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11586 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:58 pm to
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The only reason people want it changed in the first place is because they are following a cult-like dogma. They want it gone because they want it gone. It won’t solve racism.

It’s not like someone looks up at that flag everyday and thinks, “Ahh, yeah! I remember! I’m a racist!”


Do you think that’s what people who want it removed are imagining it will solve?
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2130 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:59 pm to
Mississippian born and raised. Don’t really care if it stays or goes but I know one thing...after it’s removed, something else will offend the SJW crowd and this entire process will be repeated.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
893 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:02 pm to
Also, old people don't like changes in general, because that's what the damn kids are doing... changing things that were perfectly good enough for us, gosh darnit!

This is related to church, but can be applied to many parts of life:

Chuck Lawless
Posted by Drew Brews
SG·LA
Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:07 pm to
IMO, it should be changed. However, that should be decided by popular vote of the state's residents.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7037 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:12 pm to

Simple fact is people are STUPID....The flag in question was not the flag of the Confederacy it was a battle flag
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3028 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Do you think that’s what people who want it removed are imagining it will solve?

It’s impossible to tell because it’s clear that their message is not only disorganized, but also not rational. At first, I thought it was just blanket trying to remove monuments and emblems for some contrived form of getting rid of “systemic racism,” which I didn’t support then and I don’t support now.

However, it seems that the true goal is something more sinister, while leading on these useful idiots with these preconceived notions.

Though, I could definitely be wrong.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16396 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:17 pm to
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and not be steered by outside influences


That is not realistic. If major revenue generating opportunities were lost since large corporations/organizations wanted to distance themselves with a state due to the design of a flag, I would vote to have it changed.

It would not be that important to me and it would be steered by outside influences.
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