re: We Turned Our Backs on God

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We Turned Our Backs on God

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As a country we most certainly have...

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No we haven't, Most of us are having God stripped from us against our wills. That's different than turning our backs on God.

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People do that with a god. The concept of what is "good" and "bad" has shifted dramatically over time, even in the context of religions of all stripes.

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That's why God has revealed to us how to properly understand that which we know instinctively through His revelation in the Bible. We can look at the actions of others (even those who go by the title of Christian) and judge whether or not their actions are in alignment with God's moral law.

That the sin of man causes people to act against God's moral law and to even call good bad and bad good doesn't change that God's perfect standard of moral righteousness endures.

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Morality has never been purely objective, for anyone. It always bends to self interest when necessary, even for those who believe in a god/creator.

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God provides the only rational basis for objective reality. The fact that the sinfulness of man perverts that standard over time doesn't change that.

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hasn’t in the main points. General beneficence for society is valued as are elders, parents and children. Loyalty and justice are consistently praised. Disloyalty, lying, theft and murder are consistently condemned.

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You have to get real, real vague to say that the concept or definition of what constitutes justice, loyalty, murder, and other things have remained consistent over time.

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Aristotle already did a pretry good job.

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Aristotle presupposes rationality. Which is a pretty big assumption to the post-postmodern. He also completely sidesteps the question of a society’s impact on morality which is the whole discussion we’re having. Aristotle has little to add to this discussion.

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Social media is turning our kids, friends, and family against us my censoring views that oppose the agenda of the left. One time strong conservative views are now seen as racist and archaic by the young, because of the constant barrage of the left and its mass media machine.

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"The time will surely come, when men will grow tired of sound doctrine, always itching to hear something fresh; and so they will provide themselves with a continuous succession of new teachers, as the whim takes them, turning a deaf ear to the truth, bestowing their attention on fables instead" - 2 Timothy 4:3-4

Rejoice for your redemption is at hand. You can't argue with those possessed by Satan. Pray, take care of your families, and be prepared to die for your faith and for the values and freedoms that made this country great.

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And yet, everything you relate about the objective nature of god and objective morality has only been related, written, or passed down by “sinful” humans. How or why would an omnipotent creator purposefully choose to only spread these truths through intentionally flawed beings who would inevitably distort it?

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That's a different question altogether that gets away from the basis of morality that we are discussing, but I'm happy to engage.

God is sovereign over all things, including the transmission of His word and revelation in the Bible. He has maintained the message that He has given to humanity over time so that the message of salvation may be safeguarded and His elect may come to a saving knowledge of Himself through it.

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Almost nothing in the Bible was written contemporaneously.

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Incorrect. The epistles of the New Testament, for example, were written by the Apostles to the church.

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What you mean is whether their actions are in alignment with what 2000 or years of human history has contorted moral law to be

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No. I meant what I said.

God isn’t a republican...his son either. Get over it.

If you don’t believe in God, you should be kicked out of America. You don’t deserve to enjoy its freedoms.