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It's time to LISTEN

Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by Diesel88
Wyoming
Member since Oct 2018
848 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:42 am
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As a white man who moved away from Louisiana in his late 20s, I can say from experience that the mob mentality in Louisiana and the south in general is very strong. I've learned that perspective is everything and that practicing empathy is one of the hardest things to do in a time like this, but it's what is needed to move forward.

No one is saying that Drew Brees is a bad guy. If they are, they are off the mark. They are saying that what he said was tone deaf and insensitive to the current social climate, and also proved that he, along with countless of other people white and black, are missing the point of what the protestors are trying to say. I think this video does a good job of displaying the other perspective.

You don't have to agree or disagree. You just have to listen, discuss with yourself, discuss with family and friends, and do your part to make this world a better place.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175972 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:44 am to
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It's time to LISTEN


haven't we already?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70822 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:44 am to
Generally a conversation involves both sides listening. Rushing to blast a teammate in the most public manner possible is a pretty shitty way to do that.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:46 am to
I do not have to do any of the sort and you can’t make me.

I will not yield to your ridiculous demands of obedience.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9561 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:46 am to
I will not be forced to do shite.

Go frick yourself.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162032 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:46 am to
quote:

They are saying that what he said was tone deaf and insensitive to the current social climate, and also proved that he, along with countless of other people white and black, are missing the point of what the protestors are trying to say.


but this isn't what he was asked, he gave his take specifically on the anthem protests due to his life experiences.

Asking people to just shut up and listen is ridiculous. If you actually want change then you have to allow multiple view points and not try to cancel someone when it differs from yours.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by Crazytrain69
Gonzales, LA
Member since Mar 2020
109 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:47 am to
Someone asked him a question. He answered the question in the way that he thought was true and respectful.

He got blasted. Maybe everyone should listen and discuss and not just white people. It’s unbelievable how much backlash he is getting. He’s done a lot of good through ACTION for the black community in Nola. frick this noise. I’m tired of hearing it. A lot of ppl are tired of hearing it, but we are stuck. Stuck to not stand up for our ideals as well bc if you do then you get shamed publicly. It ends careers. Tarnishes ppl unfairly to speak their own truth. It’s ridiculous. So take your statement and revise it or shove it.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10743 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:47 am to
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You just have to listen

See, that ain't a conversation. I keep hearing that we have two ears and one mouth, but that only applies to white people I guess.
I won't be told what to do by others. I love my fellow man and treat everyone with respect. I will further do my part and teach my kids to do the same. I think that's plenty.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6046 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:48 am to
Typically in an argument the sides actually AGREE over 98% what's being talked about/discussed. The other 2% is usually divided by half meaning they're arguing completely separate things. This is the perfect example of that.

Are people truly listening to what Brees said or are you only focuses on half of it? Because, if they were focused on all of that they would have heard that he was only expressing his views on why the flag matters to him and why kneeling shouldn't occur because he wants EVERYONE to be united TOGETHER. He said the world and country is an imperfect place that requires growth and all of us as AMERICANS need to be a part of the solution. Martin Luther King III literally said the said the same thing the same day and no one is blasting him.

They are only focusing on the kneeling part and not the reasoning part (meaning he is with them on social injustice and equality). If they would stop and listen to the other side they would have realized that he only agrees with a specific component of execution not the protest itself. THAT is the problem.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88882 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:48 am to
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I will not be forced to do shite.

Go frick yourself.




Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16964 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:52 am to
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It's time to LISTEN


This bullshite talking point needs to stop.

First it's "you need to listen."

Then it's "your silence is violence."

Then it's "stop talking, you don't understand."

Then it's "only white people can change this."

Seriously, there's absolutely no way to appease the mob. The narrative will constantly change in order to continue demonizing certain people and victimizing others.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:56 am to
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They are saying that what he said was tone deaf and insensitive


Nothing about Thomas and kamara passive aggressive tweet shite talking and unfollowing Drew like a baby back bitch instead of being real men and talking to him personally?

They have nothing worth saying when they consider that acceptable behavior.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:57 am to
quote:

No one is saying that Drew Brees is a bad guy. If they are, they are off the mark. They are saying that what he said was tone deaf and insensitive to the current social climate, and also proved that he, along with countless of other people white and black, are missing the point of what the protestors are trying to say.
I've been asking for 2 days now, and I can't really get an answer here.

Why wasn't any of these same people upset with Brees or Dak when they said their same comments 3-4 years ago?

Brees reiterates what he said 4 years ago and NOW it's the worst thing in the world? But no one cared 4 years ago? That doesn't add up.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1902 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:59 am to
You don’t have to LISTEN. You have to LOOK at the actual crime stats and understand what numbers mean.

Wouldn’t expect lebronika and the like to actually understand the real problem in All of this.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:59 am to
Because 4 years ago it wasn’t politically viable to attack a man like Drew Brees.

Now, attacking and discrediting the opinion of white men is encouraged.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34877 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:59 am to
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No one is saying that Drew Brees is a bad guy.






And y’all say drew is tone deaf



I’m NOT ok with being labeled a racist, and I’m definitely not ok with someone with the character of drew being labeled a racist


If you are ok with it, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM



Don’t like it, do you?
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34877 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am to
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You don't have to agree


Go post that on twitter. I dare you
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am to
Listen to what? How wrong someone is because they are a different color?
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12322 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am to
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They are saying that what he said was tone deaf and insensitive to the current social climate,


If this is the case then the outrage should be placed on the person who asked the insensitive question, when in the past brees has stated how he feels about the kneeling issue.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:04 am to
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If this is the case then the outrage should be placed on the person who asked the insensitive question, when in the past brees has stated how he feels about the kneeling issue.

Except he didn't ask how Brees felt about kneeling, Brees volunteered that part.
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