re: Are there any concrete ideas to prevent police brutality in any of this?

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any concrete ideas to prevent police brutality in any of this?

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Quit committing crimes?

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While we're at it, can we outlaw ALL public sector unions?

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This.

Here’s mine


1) No white police officers in predominantly black areas

Or

2) No police officers in these areas at all. Let them fend for themselves for a while



- i also would place checkpoints and signs at demarcation zones stating that this is a “Policed area”. “Property, Life, and Upholding of Law Area”

Pour concrete on the criminals.

one main problem is accepting the premise of police "brutality." law enforcement has countless interactions with people every day yet, less than 1000 are fatally shot per year. in 2018, 992 people were fatally shot nationally by leo. 451 were white. 229 were black.

multiple cities have enacted severe restrictions on how leo can operate, such as baltimore and nyc. that has led to leo basically ceding certain neighborhoods.

multiple da's have told police depts that they are not going to prosecute certain crimes under a certain dollar amount, such as $750 in dallas. that has led leo to not even bother responding to certain calls.

put all that together and leo across the country are exercising incredible restraint in dealing with issues they face every day. this is while they are being targeted and even ambushed. it's astonishing that people have allowed this narrative to even get off the ground

Did Chauvin do what he did to Floyd because he was black? I must have missed this being declared as the reason.

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1) End no-knock raids.
2) Move police liability insurance to the police budget and make it part of a package of funding.
3) Disincentive municipalities and counties to use ticket/court revenue as funding mechanisms.
4) State-level prosecutor to investigate and prosecute police use-of-force.

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Good luck getting rid of the police unions first.

In no particular order

- People need to start taking accountability for their own actions. (i.e. you know if you're doing dirt, don't cry what you get caught and pretend you're the victim)

- LE needs to get out of the "we protect our own" mentality. If you're on duty and you see and fellow officer doing the wrong thing it needs to be called out and /or stopped right there. If any of the other 3 officers would have attempted to stop dickhead from kneeling on Floyd's neck this could have been a situation of the officer was in the wrong instead of the law enforcement system is in the wrong. And stop protecting officers that have multiple disciplinary write ups. (Especially for use of force write ups).

- Police chiefs need to be heal accountable for officers with multiple disciplinary write ups still working shifts with the public. (Starting with firing the Chief in Minneapolis.)

- The "Hands on" policies of every department in this country need to be seriously scrutinizes. No I'm not saying treat criminals with kid gloves. I'm saying take a deep look at "when" these methods are being used.

- LE has to come back down to Earth. "frick'em" is not a solution to this problem. I believe 80% of LE are trying to do the right thing every time they put on the uniform. They are being tarnished by the rest and are being held to the same accountability. At best most people see LEO's as someone they tolerate and try not to have to interact with. The image has to change whether or not the particular officer feel's like he/she has done anything wrong.

- As hard as it may be for some people. A fact of life is you are going to interact with LEO's. Especially if you are one of the ones that feel that laws are stupid and you should be allowed to live your life the way you want as long as "You feel" you are not hurting anyone else. 90% of the time you set the tone for these encounters. (Whether or not you can understand that.) If you choose to argue, curse out or otherwise fight with LEO's it's not going to go well for you.

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While we're at it, can we outlaw ALL public sector unions?

I mean. It's another thread, but I honestly don't even comprehend the concept of a public sector union.

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I have zero problems with private sector unions tbh.

I don't feel the same way about public sector unions. They get in the way of transparency in a major way.

get rid of qualified immunity for police, and state/local govt officials


get rid of no knock forced entries