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re: What kind of shotgun would you recommend?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:07 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:07 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Shotguns are for birds and pistols are for when you can’t get to a rifle. An AR variant is what you seek.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:13 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Don’t go cheap on the gun or shells. Remington pump
You don't really keep up with guns? Do you?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:21 am to Northwestern tiger
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primarily be used as home self defense
in this case, it really doesn't matter what shotgun you get.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:21 am to JudgeHolden
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If I were going to go that way, I’d get an M27.
Yeah but the M249 is belt-fed. Gonna have to change the magazine a bunch in the IAR.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:21 am to MattA
Imagine breaking into a house then hearing a shotgun cock in the darkness.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:22 am to SidewalkTiger
I'd know the homeownwr was a fricking idiot for not having it loaded in the first place and dump a mag of .45 at the sound. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconrolleyes.gif)
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:29 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Yeah but the M249 is belt-fed
You expecting a whole RCT?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:31 am to Northwestern tiger
Mossberg 930 for semi.
Mossberg 500 for pump
Mossberg 500 for pump
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:26 am to Northwestern tiger
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I've used it for hunting back in the days. I thought shot gun is an ideal weapon for home defense.
IT IS. If shite is popping off in a confined area and some lunatic has an AR, then give me the short barrelled shotgun with #00 buckshot. I've always said that if these fools really wanted to hack up an office place they'd go in there with an extended tube tactical shotgun and wreck house. Nothin' is more efficient in confined spaces like homes and offices, especially for the good guys (i.e., you) who want to dispatch the bad guy but not your neighbor.
The only caveat is mass riots where droves of people are storming your position and that's when the AR's would shine, but let's be real here: That ain't happening right now, and if it does then we got other things to do rather than be on the OT shooting the breeze.
Get a Remington 870 YOUTH MODEL TWENTY GAUGE chambered in 2 3/4" and 3". Disregard the 2.75" loads except for checking your point of impact to the point of aim. Starting off the gun will run ya about 300 dollars and some change. With the ammo you should be able to walk out of the gun shop with well under $500 spent, and that includes targets if you've got the place to do it and don't want to go to a range.
Take the factory plug out if it has one in it: Migratory game bird laws don't apply to defending your kingdom from lunatics and societal roaches.
It's compact, has a short barrel, ammo is cheap and it will kill a man from 0 to 30 yards if the barrel is choked correctly for HD and if you're using the correct ammo (which is not hard to find nor a complicated subject like, say, handgun home defense loads), BUT it won't kill your dog who's licking his arse on the other side of the wall outside.
Put an improved cylinder choke in it and load it first and last with 3" high brass #7/8/9 Tungsten Super Shot. The IC is perfect for TSS and buckshot in HD situations, and it is also a fine choice in hunting: Over choking buckshot especially can result in a "blown out" pattern.
Pattern your shotgun at the range. Maybe buy a couple of different chokes and an extra box or two of ammo.
That first small caliber is for close up shots: twenty gauge #7/8/9 TSS coming at him from the other end of the hallway will damn near cut your enemy in half.
The last #/7/8/9 is for making sure he remembers it when he's at the other end of the house running away. Think Dave Chappelle and his, "that'll just 'pepper' him" skit. You can tell that story is absolutely true because it's factual from beginning to end.
The rest of your arsenal loads are #00 or #000 buckshot. I prefer #00 Remington Magnum Buckshot, but pretty much any 3" magnum 20 gauge #00 BS will stop a man who's trying to stop you in his tracks. Everybody knows the biz on buckshot, and that they'll kill a man with that IC choke from the other side of the wall, but that's the only wall it'll go through. Car doors are no match either.
You can buy so many aftermarket stocks, magazine extenders, etc. for Remington 870's, and so it would not only be practical and fairly cheap, relatively speaking, to customize your gun, but also a fun "project" to take a factory stock Remington 870 youth 20 gauge 870 express and trick it out as a full blown home defense weapon.
And don't worry about the "youth" moniker: All it means is a shortened butt stock, which I much prefer in many situations especially home defense and woodcock hunting where maneuverability is a must, and it also has the shorter sawed off 21" barrel which makes it even faster: You can slide through the tight confines of your half bath OR a tangled quail thicket without it hanging up on stuff like a full size shotgun would. It's a fast handling, low priced, dependable shotgun that I swear is made for home defense as much as it is made for hunting- youth or not. It's one of my go-to hunting guns, and it IS my go-to home defense long gun along with a handgun, that is a Glock 20 (chambered in 10mm) which I also happen to hunt with as well.
Good luck to ya, and don't let anybody tell you that a scattergun ain't the best damned home defense weapon ever made, because if they do they're either lying to ya, or they don't know shite from shinola.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:55 am to Northwestern tiger
And older (pre-early 1990's)Rem 870 Wingmaster, buy an 18" barrel for it. No way i'd trust my life to a Mossberg.
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:07 am to choppadocta
quote:Remington Rand M1911A1 45 ACP checking in.
Also shooting a fire arm especially a shotgun indoors with no hearing protection is an incredibly disturbing and disorienting experience.
The phone kept ringing in my head for about a week afterwards but I couldn't answer it.
No animals were harmed in my experience, the single shot went through a bathroom window.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:07 am to MattA
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Shotguns are for birds and pistols are for when you can’t get to a rifle. An AR variant is what you seek.
While I won't disagree that folks should own that type of tool, wielding a long gun (shotgun/rifle) in a domestic environment (home) for the untrained (non military/law-enforcement) is a very difficult proposition. This is especially true when rounding corners and entering rooms. The chance of the bad guy(s) deflecting the muzzle or disarming you are much higher with a long gun than a handgun. Additionally, as there is no such thing as a free lunch, because of it's smaller size/weight, it takes much less time to redirect a handgun to a new target than it does a long gun. It's simple inertia. And this doesn't even begin to talk about the much more significant over penetration issues that a high velocity carbine presents in a typical home.
And there's the issue of ammunition. To really be proficient and again, it's already been talked about in this thread, nothing is more important than practice. Simply put, 9mm ammunition is about 1/2 the cost (roughly) of .223. So theoretically a user can get twice the range time with 9mm choice vs .223
Every tool has it's use and every user should make their own decisions about the right tool to protect their domicile. For example, if I had to defend my home and the back 40 and I could only chose 1 tool, I'm choosing the carbine. If I live in a neighborhood with close neighbors, that's not my choice. Carbines are nice and look "cool" but too many people buy them for just that reason and not practical real world application for their particular circumstance.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:10 am to White Bear
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And older (pre-early 1990's)Rem 870 Wingmaster, buy an 18" barrel for it. No way i'd trust my life to a Mossberg.
I have a 870 from the 1970's and that thing is a tank. I've heard they suck now though. Mine has too long of a barrel for home defense. I just use it for the occasional duck hunt.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:14 am to geauxbrown
Still have my grandfathers Winchester model 12
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:14 am to Lonnie Utah
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While I won't disagree that folks should own that type of tool, wielding a long gun (shotgun/rifle) in a domestic environment (home) for the untrained (non military/law-enforcement) is a very difficult proposition.
It rather have a shotgun. This Stevens model is less than $200
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:21 am to White Bear
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No way i'd trust my life to a Mossberg.
U.S. military shotguns
Mossberg 500, pump-action combat shotgun used by the United States Army and Marines.
whatever
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:23 am to Northwestern tiger
I love my Mossberg 590A1. Because I bought mine for home defense, I swapped out the "stock" stock for a Hogue 12" stock. It makes the gun much shorter.
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:26 am to SlidellCajun
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I tend to think shotguns are a bad choice for home defense. Very messy.
If someone breaks into my home at 3 a.m. with bad intentions, I hope I make a mess.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
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For home defense a pump with a pistol grip and a shorter barrel. Also, don’t get buck shite or slugs but rather get something more like #8 or #6 shot as the bigger shot will go through Sheetrock like there is. I thing there.
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Worst advice in the thread. OP whatever you do, don't listen to this.
You'll get lots of different opinions, but I'll say if you are hellbent on a shotgun then get a Remington 870 or Mossberg 590 and load up with 00 buckshot.
With that said, shotguns are extremely effective but not the most user friendly weapon, especially for someone who doesn't shoot. There is massive recoil, your magazine capacity is limited, and reloading - especially under stress - takes a lot of time.
A better solution is an AR15, and again just keep it simple. Buy an off the shelf rifle from either Daniel Defense or BCM. Either a 14.5" with a pinned and welded muzzle device, or a 16". Load up with regular 55 gr ball, and bring it to the range until you're very comfortable with the operation of the weapon.
If you have children, keep the rifle readily accessible and lock away a few loaded magazines where the kids cannot get to them.
ETA: Here I'll make it even more simple for you. Get this. Just add a rear site, and if you want to get really fancy, a red dot and rail mounted flashlight.
BCM Carbine
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This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 11:17 am
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