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re: Wash Post:Antimalarial drug touted by Trump is linked to increased risk of death in corona
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:07 am to tigerinDC09
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:07 am to tigerinDC09
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The right's new motto, "let's get irregular heartbeats to own the libs"
Drug-induced prolonged QT is caused by the following drugs:
Antipsychotics
Chlorpromazine
Haloperidol
Droperidol
Quetiapine
Olanzapine
Amisulpride
Thioridazine
Type IA antiarrhythmics
Quinidine
Procainamide
Disopyramide
Type IC antiarrhythmics
Flecainide
Encainide
Class III antiarrhythmics
Sotalol
Amiodarone
Tricyclic antidepressants
Amitriptyline
Doxepin
Imipramine
Nortriptyline
Desipramine
Other antidepressants
Mianserin
Citalopram
Escitalopram
Venlafaxine
Bupropion
Moclobemide
Antihistamines
Diphenhydramine
Astemizole
Loratidine
Terfanadine
Other
Chloroquine
Hydroxychloroquine
Quinine
Macrolides: Erythromycin; Clarithromycin
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:08 am to boomtown143
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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients
This study is so flawed and politically motivated. Hospitalized patients are the mast severe cases, and of course are going to have a higher rate of death.
It’s like doing a study on patients that go on ventilators and concluding that patients on ventilators have a higher rate of death. Of course they do, because those are the ones with the most advanced issues.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:09 am to jrodLSUke
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This study is so flawed and politically motivated. Hospitalized patients are the mast severe cases, and of course are going to have a higher rate of death.
Which is why the buried the quote about using it as Trump is using it 15 paragraphs or so down
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:09 am to jrodLSUke
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It’s like doing a study on patients that go on ventilators and concluding that patients on ventilators have a higher rate of death.
This will always be the issue until a double-blinded study is done.
“Follow the science” Op is literally retarded.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 am to ShortyRob
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Also, you'll ignore it, but that "analysis" didn't control for initial condition.
Wait - you mean that just because A LOT of people die after undergoing dialysis compared folks who don't (but still have CKD), that doesn't mean that dialysis is inherently dangerous and should be avoided?
Umpossible!
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 am to Nosevens
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Hydroxychloroquine is prescribed over 40K times a day.
And that’s just in the VA system
It’s used millions of times throughout the world
Let's be clear, this study is only about it's cost benefit analysis in those Hospitalized with Covid.
The FDA approved it for prevention of malaria, so it's safe for that use.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:11 am to tigerinDC09
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The FDA approved it for prevention of malaria, so it's safe for that use.
You’re too dumb to know you just shot yourself in the foot.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:11 am to tigerinDC09
quote:What does that mean oh wise one?
Let's be clear, this study is only about it's cost benefit analysis in those Hospitalized with Covid.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:12 am to tigerinDC09
Real question tigerindc09
How many times have you lost your car in the parking lot or forgot what street you live on
How many times have you lost your car in the parking lot or forgot what street you live on
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:12 am to tigerinDC09
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The evidence strong suggests so.
You are the biggest liar ever
Its actually embarrassing
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:12 am to jrodLSUke
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This study is so flawed and politically motivated. Hospitalized patients are the mast severe cases, and of course are going to have a higher rate of death.
Right, so wouldn't an effective treatment decrease their rate of death, not increase it?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to tigerinDC09
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Right, so wouldn't an effective treatment decrease their rate of death, not increase it?
Let me answer your question with a question. Why are double-blinded studies important?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to Nosevens
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Wash Post:Antimalarial drug touted by Trump is linked to increased risk of death in corona
Real question tigerindc09
How many times have you lost your car in the parking lot or forgot what street you live on
Don't drive allot up here, just once a week to church and grocery store... pre-covid.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to boomtown143
Yet Trump is still alive or maybe he isn't. Maybe Trump is really dead and is a Zombie. A Zombie President! That should really irk the Democrats that Republicans have the first Zombie President. A Republican Zombie President that devours the souls of Democrats. Well that doesn't work because they don't have souls. Brains doesn't work because they don't have brains. So, Trump is a undernourished Republican Zombie President that needs Hydroxychloroqine as a supplement due to a lousy diet of Democrats. He can't keep getting away with it!
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:14 am to ShortyRob
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So, you CAN take it in COMBINATION?
That is the way it is prescribed and the way HCQ is more effective.
Science of why it works.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:14 am to tigerinDC09
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This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 7:25 am
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:15 am to La Place Mike
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Yet Trump is still alive or maybe he isn't.
Again ya'll fail to understand what increased risk means.
Plus, and I'll say this again, this increased risk refers to people with confirmed covid in a hospital so this doesn't even apply to Trump's situation.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:16 am to BestBanker
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Why do you care so much? Or do you really care at all? Thank you, doctor.
Meh, I guess i'm the person who's actually pro-life.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:16 am to tigerinDC09
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Meh, I guess i'm the person who's actually pro-life.
WaPo did what it always does. Its headline doesn't match its contents once you get to the shite they buried more than a dozen paragraphs down.
The drug is currently FDA approved. Doctors prescribe it. The end.
Also, you'll ignore it, but the "analysis" didn't control for initial condition.
The people in the analysis ON the drug STARTED OFF in worse shape than the people in the analysis that were NOT on the drug.
ALSO. Buried in the story are THESE quotes.
quote:
The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic.
quote:
A large study of health-care workers that examines the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against covid-19 is in the works, but no results have been released.
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Evidence of any benefit, such as viral clearance or improved symptoms, has been almost nonexistent.
This one is amusing because there's another way to write the phrase "almost non-existent". Do you need me to hold your hand?
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Earlier this month, some proponents of hydroxychloroquine seized on a study out of New York University’s Langone Health center that threw zinc into the mix with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and showed the treated group had a higher rate of survival. But researchers emphasized that it only showed that the combination had some promise
So, you CAN take it in COMBINATION?
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Last week, the National Institutes of Health announced a clinical trial of 2,000 adults to determine if hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could be used to treat coronavirus patients
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Geoffrey Barnes, a cardiovascular specialist at the University of Michigan, said the study’s approach and its findings were “striking” in making the case that “the risk with these drugs is real.” However, he said that due to the enthusiasm some Americans have for the drug and the Lancet study’s findings, randomized trials are even more important.
Can I just point out that the very fact that various agencies are STILL doing trials indicates "THE EXPERTS" do NOT have a final answer on the subject despite what TigerMoronInDC seems to think?
OK. My boot is now so far up your arse, I'm somewhat concerned. And hell, I didn't even have to leave YOUR source to beat the shite out of your dumb asses
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:17 am to tigerinDC09
quote:You understand the "study" (more correctly a retrospective, offsite review) demonstrated no such thing, right?
Right, so wouldn't an effective treatment decrease their rate of death, not increase it?
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