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Wash Post:Antimalarial drug touted by Trump is linked to increased risk of death in corona

Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:43 am
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6706 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:43 am
MSNBC saying it's more dangerous to take it right now
"President pushing an unapproved drug and other conspiracy theories"

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1263809631014531073
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The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Antimalarial drug touted by Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/

You won't hear this on TV...important takeaway
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The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic.


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A large study of health-care workers that examines the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against covid-19 is in the works, but no results have been released.


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Earlier this month, some proponents of hydroxychloroquine seized on a study out of New York University’s Langone Health center that threw zinc into the mix with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and showed the treated group had a higher rate of survival. But researchers emphasized that it only showed that the combination had some promise


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An analysis of 96,000 patients shows those treated with hydroxychloroquine were also more likely to suffer irregular heart rhythms

A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever was hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”

Past studies also found scant or no evidence of hydroxychloroquine’s benefit in treating sick patients, while reports mounted of dangerous heart problems associated with its use. As a result, the Food and Drug Administration last month warned against the use of the drug outside hospital settings or clinical trials.


THIS QUOTE TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

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Cardiologist Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic said the new data, combined with data from smaller previous studies, suggests that the drug “is maybe harmful and that no one should be taking it outside of a clinical trial.”


"no one should be taking it outside of a clinical trial" really? all those people with lupus that take it??

This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:43 am to
Its science baby!
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:44 am to
We’re going to get Drumpf!
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19350 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:44 am to
I'm not giving them my traffic but are they referencing the VA study?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37545 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:46 am to
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President pushing an unapproved drug and other conspiracy theories


Doesn’t it have to be prescribed by a doctor?

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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.


Did they control for the fact that the people given the drug may have been in MUCH worse shape?
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 7:48 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:46 am to
These assholes are certifiably insane.

They are at war over this drug because Trump said it might work. To Hell with all the doctors prescribing it.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45292 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:48 am to
Hydroxychloroquine is prescribed over 40K times a day.

We’re not listening to you anymore WaPo and Lancet.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:49 am to
The MSM touted this exact drug until Trump mentioned it. Tim Pool did a video pointing it out.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:50 am to
How many of them died from drug-induced prolonged QTc?

Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:53 am to
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These assholes are certifiably insane.

They are at war over this drug because Trump said it might work. To Hell with all the doctors prescribing it.


“For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.”
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:54 am to
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These a-holes are certifiably insane.


No, they are evil.

TRULY insane people can't help themselves.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:54 am to
Do you ever feel shame for being such a soy laden weakling?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:55 am to
We don’t believe the WaPo nor the political medical rag Lancet nor this study and we don’t care about what they have to say on the subject.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:56 am to
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tigerinDC09

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tigerinDC09: I'm saying that in this instance, there is publicly available information that indicates that the FISA application was well founded.

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Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:57 am to
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It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records

So it’s retrospective analysis? OMG! I wonder what the results will be??

fricking dumbasses.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:57 am to
The msm is dangerous.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:57 am to
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We don’t believe the WaPo nor the political medical rag Lancet nor this study and we don’t care about what they have to say on the subject.


That's fine, you don't have to believe in gravity, but it still effects you.

Good luck getting this drug in a hospital if u get covid. No self respecting emergency doc will prescribe this now.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:57 am to
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For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.


Do you think HCQ is contributing to mortality? Honest question.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:58 am to
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No self respecting emergency doc will prescribe this now.


Wanna bet?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:58 am to
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is maybe harmful


All the suggested bad narrative about HCQ and they conclude with “maybe”.

frick the garbage WaPo. Typical fake news. Selling doom and gloom and finishing the article with plausible deniability.


This crusade against HCQ is the weirdest thing from the left I have ever seen.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:08 am
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