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re: Wash Post:Antimalarial drug touted by Trump is linked to increased risk of death in corona

Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:28 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140732 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:28 am to
Looks like he went back to passing out keyboards. Good. He needed a break.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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No. We actually understand that phrase. And we understand that the patients who were prescribed HCQ were already at increased risk of mortality when they were prescribed HCQ than those who were not prescribed HCQ.



This is just completely untrue. Everyone has the same statistical rate of survival once they enter the hospital with Covid. When they were given HCQ this survey shows that a significant variance occurred coincident with the administration of HCQ.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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Trump’s love affair with this drug is straight up stupid


As is your hate for the man.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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Geauxst Writer

Geauxst Writer: Mueller is painting a masterpiece on corruption and obstruction.

LINK

Geauxst Writer: Don Jr. admitted to collusion, Jared is going to get indicted, and Trump himself will avoid collusion but his underlines will go down. No this is not over.

LINK
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74290 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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Trump’s love affair with this drug is straight up stupid and will be a major campaign issue berating his anti-science judgement combined with injecting Clorox. WTF?. He should be pimping the Gilead drug - Remdesiver -which is flourishing in trials.



The amount of stupid between you and Dc09 is staggering
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57387 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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It's not often that one of these morons comes in here citing WaPo and, to completely OBLITERATE them, all you have to do is USE THE WAPO story!

WaPo kicked its own fricking arse.
Yet, they think Trump is the one trying to mislead them about HCQ
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:30 am to
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This is just completely untrue. Everyone has the same statistical rate of survival once they enter the hospital with Covid. When they were given HCQ this survey shows that a significant variance occurred coincident with the administration of HCQ.
Good lord.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140732 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:30 am to
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will be a major campaign issue


Only to you radical leftists.

Injecting Chlorox? You probably believe that. FFS you people are deranged.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:30 am to
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Hell, they didn’t question its use for COVID until Trump mentioned it.


That's the funny part.

The shite was all over the news...……...then, Trump mentioned it in a positive way...……...THEN, "OMG, is this drug dangerous!!!!"
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57387 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:30 am to
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Everyone has the same statistical rate of survival once they enter the hospital with Covid.
you cannot possibly be this stupid.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:31 am to
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Throwing out a quote without a link to the study taken from automatically eliminates you from any serious discussion.


There's a link to the study in the article, but you didn't know that because you didn't read the article...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:31 am to
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There's a link to the study in the article, but you didn't know that because you didn't read the article...
Neither did you which is why I whipped your fricking arse

WaPo did what it always does. Its headline doesn't match its contents once you get to the shite they buried more than a dozen paragraphs down.

The drug is currently FDA approved. Doctors prescribe it. The end.

Also, you'll ignore it, but the "analysis" didn't control for initial condition.

The people in the analysis ON the drug STARTED OFF in worse shape than the people in the analysis that were NOT on the drug.

ALSO. Buried in the story are THESE quotes.

quote:

The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic.



quote:

A large study of health-care workers that examines the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against covid-19 is in the works, but no results have been released.



quote:

Evidence of any benefit, such as viral clearance or improved symptoms, has been almost nonexistent.

This one is amusing because there's another way to write the phrase "almost non-existent". Do you need me to hold your hand?

quote:

Earlier this month, some proponents of hydroxychloroquine seized on a study out of New York University’s Langone Health center that threw zinc into the mix with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and showed the treated group had a higher rate of survival. But researchers emphasized that it only showed that the combination had some promise


So, you CAN take it in COMBINATION?

quote:

Last week, the National Institutes of Health announced a clinical trial of 2,000 adults to determine if hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could be used to treat coronavirus patients


quote:

Geoffrey Barnes, a cardiovascular specialist at the University of Michigan, said the study’s approach and its findings were “striking” in making the case that “the risk with these drugs is real.” However, he said that due to the enthusiasm some Americans have for the drug and the Lancet study’s findings, randomized trials are even more important.



Can I just point out that the very fact that various agencies are STILL doing trials indicates "THE EXPERTS" do NOT have a final answer on the subject despite what TigerMoronInDC seems to think?

OK. My boot is now so far up your arse, I'm somewhat concerned. And hell, I didn't even have to leave YOUR source to beat the shite out of your dumb asses
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:32 am to
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Geauxst Writer: Mueller is painting a masterpiece on corruption and obstruction.




Never forget.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:32 am to
Ventilators are more dangerous than Hydroxychloroquine
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:32 am to
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Everyone has the same statistical rate of survival once they enter the hospital with Covid

Ho
Lee
shite

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:32 am to
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Geauxst Writer: Mueller is painting a masterpiece on corruption and obstruction.





Never forget.
Another classic!
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:35 am to
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Neither did you which is why I whipped your fricking arse


So you just admitted that you hadn't read it... what a self own.

quote:

The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic.


I said this exact thing a few posts ago, again, you are the one not reading.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96443 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:35 am to
If this drug is so dangerous and they think Trump is dangerous, shouldn’t the media be happy about him using it? It takes him out without them having to fire a shot if they are so confident of this.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:36 am to
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There's a link to the study in the article, but you didn't know that because you didn't read the article...




You are right. I know the conclusion from the article because it brought YOU here. Guess you do not want to discuss the original article.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:36 am to
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So you just admitted that you hadn't read it... what a self own.

LOL

Reading comprehension much? "Neither" in my post isn't referring back to me because your post wasn't in response to me

Are you actually that stupid?

quote:

I said this exact thing a few posts ago, again, you are the one not reading.
It ain't no accident that you're avoiding my full post.

You lose bitch
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