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Businesses that are saying F the rules

Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37333 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:40 pm
I'm torn here. I think these closures have well outlived their usefulness (if there was any at all) and we need to start opening things back up, quicker and sooner.

But when some businesses have decided the rules don't apply to them, I just can't support that. We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules, and if you don't like the rules, then fight like hell to change them.

But when the state says a bar can't have in-bar service, and there are 50 cars in the parking lot, and the door constantly opening and closing and people drinking at the bar, and no one enforces the rules, it's a slap in the face to the bar down the street who is abiding by the rules.

We are going to be seeing a lot more of this in the days ahead. More proof that nice guys finish last.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:41 pm to
Fortune favors the bold.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
46988 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm torn here.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5398 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
So the asshats that said raise the budget or lose LSU football get to decide that la carretas can have 200 people in the parking lot but the barbershops have stay closed and risk bankruptcy? Screw that

All businesses should have an option to stay open with parameters
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
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hen fight like hell to change them


Uh, that's kind of the point of protesting unjust rules by not following them.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124997 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

But when the state says a bar can't have in-bar service, and there are 50 cars in the parking lot, and the door constantly opening and closing and people drinking at the bar, and no one enforces the rules, it's a slap in the face to the bar down the street who is abiding by the rules.



Then maybe you shouldn’t abide by stupid rules just because some stuffed shirt petty tyrant says so.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8437 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:50 pm to
Well I can’t speak to everyone but we own a non essential business. Stayed closed until it was abundantly clear that this thing was not what they made it out to be. Observed those who got sick and recovered who we knew personally. Observed people living with sock people and not getting sick. So we reopened on May 1. Our clients wanted us back and come in for services on the “low” effectively. The “rules” as you say are not legal in my opinion. They’re constitutionally suspect at best, politically driven at worst.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19599 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:52 pm to
I support their right to rebel.

I’ve been trying to figure out why though.

I believe in hierarchy. But at the same time I have a healthy disregard for the rules, and I always have.

It must be cultural.

I intuitively know that there are people who can tell me what to do, and there are people who can’t.

But it has nothing to do with titles, oddly. It’s more about how old you are, and who you are. And there are limits to what I can be commanded to do.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23457 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:56 pm to
The rules at this point are for the most part reasonable, IMO.

When people start abusing them, it only seems to lead to more extreme measures.

I think we should take obvious precautions and follow the rules as they now stand, just so we can get out of this without any more complications/closures down the road.

I'm worried if we don't, we're going to start pushing this into football season.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:59 pm to
Sounds like a bootlicker in here

As long as daddy government makes the rules, whatever they are or as horrible as they are we must obey.

Into the cars! Thanks daddy government!
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

But when some businesses have decided the rules don't apply to them, I just can't support that. We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules, and if you don't like the rules, then fight like hell to change them.


yeah frick that

I see where you are coming from in ordinary circumstances, but these circumstances are not ordinary. These "rules" are being made not through the legislature, the instrument of the people, but through executive actions of single people in charge of entire states. On top of it all, these executive actions are textbook government overreach. I have zero issue with people taking a moral and legal stance against them.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79672 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:59 pm to
If you ain't first, you're last!
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12448 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:04 pm to
I think the way the whole ‘essential business’ thing was handled poorly. If I have a local sporting goods or running/fitness or golf store but have to go bankrupt because the government won’t let me open while watching people pour in and out of Academy Sports with bags of active wear, shoes, golf equipment, or other clothing then I’m pissed and prob going to jail over it.

If their only open because they sell ammo/guns then that’s the only departments that should be available to the public.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:08 pm to
If nobody follows a rule is it still a rule?
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2666 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

More proof that nice guys finish last.


I disagree with your premise here. It isn't whether the bar owners are nice or not. It's whether they are the compliant type (e.g. "sheep"). I think nearly every business owner sees the shutdown as ignorant BS by now. Some comply anyway, some ars saying F it.
Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

But when the state says a bar can't have in-bar service, and there are 50 cars in the parking lot, and the door constantly opening and closing and people drinking at the bar, and no one enforces the rules, it's a slap in the face to the bar down the street who is abiding by the rules.



I think you should forfeit up your money to repay the lost earnings of the bar owners...do you think thats fair?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15146 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:33 pm to
Maybe the bar down the street shouldn’t act like a pussy.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56952 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I'm torn here. I think these closures have well outlived their usefulness (if there was any at all) and we need to start opening things back up, quicker and sooner.

But when some businesses have decided the rules don't apply to them


rules?

quote:

We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules, and if you don't like the rules, then fight like hell to change them.



It should not be expected that laws that steal constitutional freedom and that have a significant immediate impact are simply ignored. This isn't a case where getting a judgement in 6 months satisfies the necessary outcome.

People need to make a living. Despite you not realizing it, your desire to have "people follow the rules" isn't more important than their desire to stay solvent.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules


Did you report your Jewish neighbors to the Nazis yet?
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