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re: T or F, most of us will have to get infected

Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 am to
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Wow, the OT Sure has changed its tune since I said most people would get it
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:43 am to
Looks like that may have been a good call.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:44 am to
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I can’t speak for the rest of the country but I honestly quit worrying about Corona two weeks ago. It clearly affects/kills only those with compromised health. Those people need to take precautions. The rest of the planet needs to get on with life.


I’m with you on this. Everyone that I work with is in great health for the most part. But our company is going overboard with the precautions. Automatic 2 weeks quarantine with pay if so show symptoms and get tested. Positive or negative test, still off for 2 weeks. There’s perfectly fine 25 year old kids abusing this to get an extra 2 weeks off
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:46 am to
Virus isnt going anywhere. Some believe that when a new virus comes out it is at its complete worse... Maybe because we dont know how to treat it or maybe because our bodies have zero immunity to it. We will never completely know the true story of what happen these strange couple months.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53559 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:46 am to
Actually based corona only gets fat people and boomers
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3233 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:46 am to
This has been known from the beginning. Stay at home measures were to prevent overwhelming the healthcare system, not to prevent infections.

Now that we are more prepared, it is time to begin reopening regionally. Federal guidelines make no sense for a disease that is hitting the country variably.

However, reopening does not mean that this is no longer a serious and dangerous situation. People should still be cautious. At least 30-40% of American adults are higher risk for severe disease bc we fat AF.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:48 am to
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Nothing. I was answering ops question.


question:

quote:

T or F, most of us will have to get infected


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425884 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:49 am to
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Wow, the OT Sure has changed its tune since I said most people would get it

without a vaccine, i don't see why anyone would disagree

i'm curious what SK is going to do long-term. their curve is so flat it will never go away
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:56 am to
That isn't the whole question that op asked.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15527 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:57 am to
With something as contagious as this is, there is no way in the world a large percentage of the population. Not to mention however many people have had it or will have it and not show a single symptom. We need to find ways to protect our nursing homes(apparently a lot of them have been absolutely ravaged, and that's a true tragedy), and for people who know they have a weaker immune system to personally quarantine for a much longer time.

As for the rest of us, beyond wanting to slow the spread to not overload the hospital and our resources, it is absolutely stupid to think you can just sit and hide away inside your house as if Covid19 will one day just magically disappear. We can still practice social distancing. Large gatherings over 25 people should stay banned imo. Still take extra precautions like washing your hands as much as people. If you do feel sick, then stay home.

Truth be told, the government should also be encouraging more people to get in the gym and workout. We now know that this disproportionately affects obese people. What if by someone working out 2-3 times, that they could save their own life if they contracted this in about a month. That may be too soon to make a difference, But the fact is that, elderly people can't control that they are at such a high risk. That is due to no fault of their own. Younger obese people can.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:58 am to
I have seen 30-40 percent on the low end of numbers before the spread slows down to the point that it is no longer contagious.

So if we are splitting hairs, it may not be “most” but it will be very close. 100 million may not be “most” but it is obviously a huge number.

If I am understanding the antibody test results correctly, up to 50 times as many people in the most severely impacted areas have been infected enough to produce antibodies. That is on the very high end. But 10-20 times the reported rates seems more commonplace.

So we may me at 20 million cases already. That is clearly not near herd immunity but a hell of a lot closer than 1 million.

Also reduces the death rate to maybe 0.3 percent, which is still a significant number.

So the death rate could be in the 300,000 to 400,000 range before it’s all done, doing some quick math and assuming the positive news from the antibody tests is right.

The number could be lower if people throughout the US are showing the same rates as in large cities California for exposure but I just don’t see how that could be the case.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 8:02 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56075 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:59 am to
Whoops. I can’t read
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32017 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:01 am to
Everything in my post is under the impression that herd immunity or something close to it will be reached before a vaccine is readily available.

I also have no doubt that people in small towns in the Plains could see no coronavirus cases before then.

Same goes for people who live isolated social lives and rarely see anyone else.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:02 am to
21st Century Coodies
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15937 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:02 am to
Put me on the schedule for next week. Too many meetings on my calendar and I hate Skype.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:11 am to
Most of us have already been infected. Ancient Chinese secret huh.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6284 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:13 am to
It's a highly contagious respiratory disease that doesn't die out in heat.

Most will get infected.
As long as isolate frail ppl it ultimately won't kill many.

Focus on being healthy.
Exercise, eat healthy, and control any underlying conditions.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:17 am to
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so contagious there is no stopping or containing it. Hiding at home another week, month, whatever won't do it. 


but staying home has kept the peak from overwhelming the medical system.
that was the reason for most.
for diabetes or 70s it was survival.

testing is still subject to bogus providers. chinese antibodies tests that are fake. inexpensive oral tests not readily available.

you are right on key points.
most people will get it before nih approves a vaccine.
as long as republicans continue to congregate in defiance it will spread unchecked.

Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
8130 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:20 am to
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as long as republicans continue to congregate in defiance it will spread unchecked.



The people I see congregating in New Orleans don't look like Republicans.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11422 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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The people I see congregating in New Orleans don't look like Republicans.


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