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re: To those who say you can’t compare CV19 to H1N1
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:40 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:40 am to RD Dawg
quote:
So you're comparing the "average daily death rate" of the seasonal flu to the highest CV-19 death tally in ONE particular day?
I think the point is we're probably not close to the peak daily death total from t his. In fact all evidence points we're not even near the top.
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:08 am to Powerman
quote:Indeed.
In fact all evidence points we're not even near the top.
I don't get the DV.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:12 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
I don't get the DV.
Some people are just hacks and will DV anything I say. Or they're stupid and think that we've hit our peak daily death total today and we're on the steady decline.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:15 am to Powerman
quote:
think the point is we're probably not close to the peak daily death total from t his. In fact all evidence points we're not even near the top.
Sure but he's cherry picking the numbers when you stretch out flu numbers over the course of the entire year when the vast majority of deaths take place certain months of the year.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:21 am to RidiculousHype
quote:
To those who say you can’t compare CV19 to H1N1
I think it is an apt comparison to the original H1N1 pandemic in 1918.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:24 am to RD Dawg
quote:
Sure but he's cherry picking the numbers when you stretch out flu numbers over the course of the entire year when the vast majority of deaths take place certain months of the year.
Fair enough. But we're probably not anywhere near the top of the daily death toll of this thing.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:35 am to Powerman
quote:
But we're probably not anywhere near the top of the daily death toll of this thing.
Absolutely and I'm just saying his comparison was far fetched logic at best.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:45 am to Powerman
Case numbers (given current management) appear to peak at ~0.1% of total population infected. We are at about 0.014%. So we could have quite a run left. Hopefully the "flattening of the curve" will keep our percentages lower though.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 3:02 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Case numbers (given current management) appear to peak at ~0.1% of total population infected
And you're basing this information off which countries?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:40 am to RidiculousHype
the media coverage is to make Trump look bad. they have been doing it for three years now. impeachment failed so try something eles. if Congress says they will postpone 2020 Presidential election you will see a cure for this virus in less than a week! I promise you that.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:49 am to Powerman
quote:
CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu,
Estimates.
I'd like to see the actual tested positive vs death rate and compare actual real values. I can't find the actual tested positive numbers for swine flu.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:04 am to Morgus
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If we shut everything down and only 5,000 die, will you admit that the number would have been higher if we hadn't?
If people stopped driving cars today, countless lives would be saved in the next 12 months.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:37 pm to Powerman
Mortality rate is not accurately represented at present, when testing isn't widely done on the general population.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:57 pm to Argonaut
quote:first, looking around the landscape of the country both online and irl, it doesn't appear that there's many people who agree with your pessimism. so you can make fun of me but there's tons more making fun of you.
It's not you. It's everyone else who doesn't get it
second, i'm sorry you can't look at this objectively. the numbers don't support the hysteria at this time. i've cited facts at every step of the points i've made.
third, your feeble attempt to say that h1n1 isn't comparable because "muh sweden" is silly because, as usual, it lacks context. it's not the total number of infections in sweden. it's the import numbers vs the r0 value vs virility of h1n1 vs social responses. so if your nonsense analogy were right and people were bringing the virus across the border flooding the us with h1n1, why didn't the "experts" shut the country down like they are now? answer that question since you've ignored all the others i asked you. you've ignored the point made by tons of people about the numbers of asymptomatic cases. you've ignored the point that taken altogether, asian countries (excluding china)/s.pac countries are definitely leveling off. as if all that weren't bad enough your crew has been characterizing people who don't agree with you as saying we should do nothing.
i've asked you multiple times now. let's see you answer this question mr. exponential growth.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:13 pm to Mohican
Italy lost more people to this thing than they did in all traffic fatalities in 2018. Guess this is already hackneyed information though.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:26 pm to Powerman
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:33 pm to bfniii
quote:
i've asked you multiple times now. let's see you answer this question mr. exponential growth.
How is this trend working out for you buddy?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:34 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
FTR we are at 500 right now.
And here we are just 4 days later at 1695 with the daily death tolls likely to still rise.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:01 pm to Powerman
quote:not much has changed so far because the numbers are still infinitesimally small compared to other outbreaks. other outbreaks are in the 10's of millions. this one isn't even 1 million worldwide after at least 4 months.
How is this trend working out for you buddy?
i suppose you thought your response was some kind of clever gotcha
i totally acknowledge that the numbers are continuing to go in the wrong direction. however, the question of the national response has still not been answered especially when you have dem govs banning known good pharmaceuticals and have purportedly much needed equipment sitting unused in warehouses.
you asked if i think la should return to business as usual. no. but is there something in between where we are and business as usual? yes. lock down the hotspots (nola) and the target demographics. no need to go overboard given what we know about this virus
quote:which is of course, still beside the point that i just made so there is no need to quote that number right now
And here we are just 4 days later at 1695 with the daily death tolls likely to still rise.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:03 pm
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