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re: Coronavirus price gouger stuck with 18,000 bottles of sanitizers after Amazon bans him
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:32 pm to madddoggydawg
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:32 pm to madddoggydawg
quote:
Making it too expensive for poor people would help everyone get it.
I don't understand your point.
People make dumb choices all the time. Everyone should have had sanitation products in their home already.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:33 pm to Pecker
quote:
Not a real thing
That 'quality' UT education is failing you.
Edit: And I'll go ahead and elaborate assuming you are the most ardent of backwoods anti-government hillbillies...
Federalism dictates states have inherent police powers to make their own laws. Even the Confederacy did that, baw. I guarantee you, if you can go look up a copy of your own state's statutes, you will see, in fact, it is "a thing." A thing enacted by your own state legislature who was voted into office by a majority of voters who decided to cast a ballot.
Alternatively, if you're a 'frick all government' type, Amazon and E-Bay have carte blanche to dictate who does and who does not sell items on their own private marketplaces.
So, yeah, it's a thing.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:33 pm to rickgrimes
Imagine defending a piece of shite who gobbled up scarce resources to try and turn a profit during a widespread emergency situation.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:34 pm to The Mick
quote:Better yet, set outside a store on adjacent parking/empty lot and sell direct, cash only, like a lemonade stand. Avoid those pesky local and state sales taxes since he can pick up and move at random too as well as avoiding need for a state sales license/business license fee.
return items to stores
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:36 pm to TypoKnig
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what the guy in the article did is shitty and he deserves criticism.
We’re in agreement. I’m not championing the low life as a Captain of Industry. I’m merely criticizing retailers and US law for screwing up a system that works beautifully without interference.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:38 pm to rickgrimes
If he has that many units. He could say screw Amazon and EBay and setup his own e-commerce store online.
He may miss out on some profits he wanted but at least he can get some of his money back.
He may miss out on some profits he wanted but at least he can get some of his money back.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:39 pm to rickgrimes
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This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:43 pm to madddoggydawg
quote:
Making it too expensive for poor people would help everyone get it.
I don’t know what the appropriate price is. The market determines that.
But if “poor people” could buy 6-8 packages of toilet paper at $7.99, something tells me they can buy 3 at $12.99.
Do you think they’d buy 8 at $12.99? Probably not.
Just an example.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:51 pm to bayoubengals88
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I don’t know what the appropriate price is. The market determines that.
Yet you claim the price (set by the market) is not appropriate.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:52 pm to BHM
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Yes, Amazon has found a way to make huge profits by getting people to give them money for stuff they think they need. Many overpay for the convenience but at the end of they dat, nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head.
Amazon is doing this within normal market conditions. Those profits are all generated within the regular market as it’s designed to operate and therefore the market is “setting the price”.
What these “profiteers” are doing is basically taking advantage in a glitch in the system. The market doesn’t have adequate time to properly adjust to this temporary dramatic increase in demand.
And they are doing this to the detriment of the health and well-being of our country. The best thing we can do is slow the rate this spreads, and restricting public access to sanitizers (like these guys did) makes that more difficult.
In a pure, 100%, capitalistic sense then yes what they are doing is just adjusting to the market. But again, it’s to the detriment of public health. If this is how you feel, then you also couldn’t argue against a company who finds the cure for cancer and can produce it for $100, but sells it for $100,000. People would pay for it at that price point, it would be within what the market dictates, but hopefully you don’t agree that makes it right. There should be *some* limited intervention and regulation in the market. We would be a lot worse off in a 100% capitalist market without any regulation whatsoever.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:53 pm to BHM
quote:Amazon is free to do whatever the frick it wants. And so are these guys. Maybe they can go on ebay, or set up an online site. No one is stopping them
Yes, Amazon has found a way to make huge profits by getting people to give them money for stuff they think they need. Many overpay for the convenience but at the end of they dat, nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head.
If you need the hand sanitizer and are willing to pay for it, then do it. If not, there are many other cheap and available alternatives.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:55 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
I don’t know what the appropriate price is. The market determines that.
But if “poor people” could buy 6-8 packages of toilet paper at $7.99, something tells me they can buy 3 at $12.99.
Do you think they’d buy 8 at $12.99? Probably not.
Just an example.
I understand what you're saying and your position against laws surrounding price gouging. But you're acting as if dynamic pricing on staple goods is a perfect system. It's wrought with challenges/issues as well.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:59 pm to Cold Drink
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Yet you claim the price (set by the market) is not appropriate.
Consumer decision determines that.
If no one wants to pay $300 for a share of Apple, then the price drops until there is a buyer. That’s how the market works.
It should be the same way with consumer goods.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:01 pm to bayoubengals88
What level of elasticity do essential items exhibit?
As a category of goods, essential goods have a low elasticity of demand. There will always be a need for consumer staples and a change in price is unlikely to impact demand.
As a category of goods, essential goods have a low elasticity of demand. There will always be a need for consumer staples and a change in price is unlikely to impact demand.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:02 pm to Nobelium
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What's the difference? If stores had adjusted prices appropriately neither of those things would have happened.
I keep seeing this but I don't think stores have that kind of leeway. There are distribution agreements that come into play.
Charmin won't let Winn Dixie sell for fifty bucks a pack.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:03 pm to Golfer
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But you're acting as if dynamic pricing on staple goods is a perfect system. It's wrought with challenges/issues as well.
I wouldn’t know. I just know that whatever happened on the toilet paper isle at Walmart this past week, ain’t good.
There is a solution, but I’m not upper management at Walmart. Therefore I cry about free market capitalism from my couch on TD.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:05 pm to rickgrimes
Sounds like he was providing a service. Someone from New York would’ve never had access to the items off the shelf of a small dollar store in Tennessee.
I have no problem with it.
I have no problem with it.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:06 pm to bayoubengals88
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There is a solution, but I’m not upper management at Walmart.
Correct. The solution would be too costly and frustrating to customers that they'd gravitate to a more reasonable solution that...wait for it...has more stable prices.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:06 pm to rickgrimes
It's Amazons platform they can do what they want. They didn't want his business and told him to frick right off.
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