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Are there any Dems or liberals that admit the failures of Obamacare?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:01 am
Obama and his admin literally said everything below but it was a lie.
Every single Dem candidate running for President wants Universal Healthcare (government run healthcare) - except for Joe he wants to expand Obamacare.
All of these moderate Dems I heard about in 2018 that won in trump districts specifically on a message of healthcare, where are their proposals?
I’m just curious how we’ve gotten to the point that obamacare is a failure that we now need more government in healthcare. These are also the same people that said/still say obamacare is not a disaster - yet they are running on a new platform.
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- lower health care costs - by 2k a year
- keep your own doctor
- keep the plans you like.
Every single Dem candidate running for President wants Universal Healthcare (government run healthcare) - except for Joe he wants to expand Obamacare.
All of these moderate Dems I heard about in 2018 that won in trump districts specifically on a message of healthcare, where are their proposals?
I’m just curious how we’ve gotten to the point that obamacare is a failure that we now need more government in healthcare. These are also the same people that said/still say obamacare is not a disaster - yet they are running on a new platform.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:03 am to Magician2
They will do it better this time... It is like Socialism/Communism, the only reason it hasn't worked is no one has done it right but they know how to do it so we just need to trust them...
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:05 am to Magician2
Hell, all lies. They won't acknowledge the cost increases and reductions in coverage.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:07 am to Magician2
Obamacare did exactly as intended. It was supposed to make things worse so universal health care would be more appealing. And the lemmings who said Obamacare was just wonderful are the ones demanding universal health care now. fricking idiots.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:08 am to Magician2
Why do you think Hannity repeats is so much? Because it was an abject failure.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:12 am to Magician2
When an abortion is botched, the morality and the effectiveness of the procedure isn't questioned. It's kept quiet. And the resolve to do the job more completely in the future is plotted.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:44 am to Magician2
The actual costs so far have been double the CBO estimate
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:47 am to Magician2
The failure of Obamacare was that Corporate Barry bent the knee to the insurance industry, which then promptly repurposed the law so they would make more money at the expense of pretty much everyone else, while still marginally improving the health care situation of some Americans.
So, yes I freely admit the failures of Obamacare, but not in the way you want me to.
So, yes I freely admit the failures of Obamacare, but not in the way you want me to.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:51 am to Magician2
Supporters of Obama only care that $20M more Americans signed up for health insurance after ObamaCare was passed.
They don't care that most of the new enrollees were newly eligible for MediCare and would have enrolled anyway. They don't care that those people paid more as a result. They don't care that premiums and deductibles increased for everyone already with health insurance. They don't care that it was the largest tax increase in American history.
They don't care that the ObamaCare architect said that a "lack of transparency" and the "stupidity of the American voter" helped Congress approve ObamaCare. They are useful idiots.
They don't care that most of the new enrollees were newly eligible for MediCare and would have enrolled anyway. They don't care that those people paid more as a result. They don't care that premiums and deductibles increased for everyone already with health insurance. They don't care that it was the largest tax increase in American history.
They don't care that the ObamaCare architect said that a "lack of transparency" and the "stupidity of the American voter" helped Congress approve ObamaCare. They are useful idiots.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:04 am to Magician2
Evidence that prove it is a disaster please? Tens of millions of people know otherwise, and are saving money because of ACA. Official numbers show that it has saved trillions in spending. It was only a disaster to pubs because they failed to overturn it as promised even though they held House AND Senate majority. They simply could not come up with anything better.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:07 am to Magician2
We didn’t spend enough money to make it work.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:11 am to Magician2
They not only want single payer HC they want us to pay for everyone else on the planet. Every one of them raised their hand for free HC to illegal aliens. I think all these liberals are aliens from another planet. How else can you explain this lunacy? So, if you live in Mexico and need a $150,000 heart transplant just go to the US. It will be free for you.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:18 am to Magician2
Obamacare is a shitty Frankenstein monster of a health insurance system.
Trying to force in a public option in a non-single payer system is never going to work, and works worse than either the old system or a universal healthcare system.
Trying to force in a public option in a non-single payer system is never going to work, and works worse than either the old system or a universal healthcare system.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:21 am to Magician2
Any liberal will tel you that it was supposed to be the greatest thing ever, but republicans Somehow ruined it as the dems rammed it down our throats.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:24 pm to Magician2
obamacare was a roaring success in the minds of liberals
it covered 19 million people who were already qualified for medicare, so they didnt need it, and it only threw 26 million middle class people off private insurance, who desperately needed it, thus raising insurance cost for everyone who was above the poverty level and not living off the government teet, to astronomical unaffordable levels so now only the rich could afford it.
it virtually guaranteed a single payer government health care system could be the only solution
it covered 19 million people who were already qualified for medicare, so they didnt need it, and it only threw 26 million middle class people off private insurance, who desperately needed it, thus raising insurance cost for everyone who was above the poverty level and not living off the government teet, to astronomical unaffordable levels so now only the rich could afford it.
it virtually guaranteed a single payer government health care system could be the only solution
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:31 pm to Magician2
They do so tacitly - if the ACA were worth a damn, the candidates wouldn't all be promising to fix health care.
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