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Are there any Dems or liberals that admit the failures of Obamacare?

Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:01 am
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:01 am
Obama and his admin literally said everything below but it was a lie.

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- lower health care costs - by 2k a year
- keep your own doctor
- keep the plans you like.


Every single Dem candidate running for President wants Universal Healthcare (government run healthcare) - except for Joe he wants to expand Obamacare.

All of these moderate Dems I heard about in 2018 that won in trump districts specifically on a message of healthcare, where are their proposals?

I’m just curious how we’ve gotten to the point that obamacare is a failure that we now need more government in healthcare. These are also the same people that said/still say obamacare is not a disaster - yet they are running on a new platform.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27200 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:03 am to
They will do it better this time... It is like Socialism/Communism, the only reason it hasn't worked is no one has done it right but they know how to do it so we just need to trust them...
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4597 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:05 am to
Hell, all lies. They won't acknowledge the cost increases and reductions in coverage.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17715 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:07 am to
Obamacare did exactly as intended. It was supposed to make things worse so universal health care would be more appealing. And the lemmings who said Obamacare was just wonderful are the ones demanding universal health care now. fricking idiots.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8395 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:08 am to
Why do you think Hannity repeats is so much? Because it was an abject failure.
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1521 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:12 am to
When an abortion is botched, the morality and the effectiveness of the procedure isn't questioned. It's kept quiet. And the resolve to do the job more completely in the future is plotted.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:19 am
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11196 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:44 am to
The actual costs so far have been double the CBO estimate
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84893 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:47 am to
The failure of Obamacare was that Corporate Barry bent the knee to the insurance industry, which then promptly repurposed the law so they would make more money at the expense of pretty much everyone else, while still marginally improving the health care situation of some Americans.

So, yes I freely admit the failures of Obamacare, but not in the way you want me to.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22268 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:51 am to
Supporters of Obama only care that $20M more Americans signed up for health insurance after ObamaCare was passed.

They don't care that most of the new enrollees were newly eligible for MediCare and would have enrolled anyway. They don't care that those people paid more as a result. They don't care that premiums and deductibles increased for everyone already with health insurance. They don't care that it was the largest tax increase in American history.

They don't care that the ObamaCare architect said that a "lack of transparency" and the "stupidity of the American voter" helped Congress approve ObamaCare. They are useful idiots.
Posted by DimTigerDontHate
Member since Feb 2020
180 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:04 am to
Evidence that prove it is a disaster please? Tens of millions of people know otherwise, and are saving money because of ACA. Official numbers show that it has saved trillions in spending. It was only a disaster to pubs because they failed to overturn it as promised even though they held House AND Senate majority. They simply could not come up with anything better.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111617 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:07 am to
We didn’t spend enough money to make it work.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:11 am to
They not only want single payer HC they want us to pay for everyone else on the planet. Every one of them raised their hand for free HC to illegal aliens. I think all these liberals are aliens from another planet. How else can you explain this lunacy? So, if you live in Mexico and need a $150,000 heart transplant just go to the US. It will be free for you.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66858 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:18 am to
Obamacare is a shitty Frankenstein monster of a health insurance system.

Trying to force in a public option in a non-single payer system is never going to work, and works worse than either the old system or a universal healthcare system.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:20 am
Posted by Gr8t8s
Member since Oct 2009
2579 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:21 am to
Any liberal will tel you that it was supposed to be the greatest thing ever, but republicans Somehow ruined it as the dems rammed it down our throats.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30130 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:24 pm to
obamacare was a roaring success in the minds of liberals

it covered 19 million people who were already qualified for medicare, so they didnt need it, and it only threw 26 million middle class people off private insurance, who desperately needed it, thus raising insurance cost for everyone who was above the poverty level and not living off the government teet, to astronomical unaffordable levels so now only the rich could afford it.

it virtually guaranteed a single payer government health care system could be the only solution
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71431 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:31 pm to
They do so tacitly - if the ACA were worth a damn, the candidates wouldn't all be promising to fix health care.

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