re: Zion Williamson = Charles Barkley ?

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Yeah some of y’all are selling Barkley short on athleticism. Dude was a freak

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I do'nt think that is the case at all.

I think some of y'all are selling Zion short on his athleticism.

If you think Barkley and Zion compare athletically, you need to go watch some more Barkley. yeah he was athletic, but not like this. Just b/c you say someone is more athletic than someone else doesn't mean the lesser guy isn't athletic.

His 2nd jump is unlike anyone else in the league, especially at his size. We are going to continue to see him power to the rim and if he misses he's going to get his own rebound and put it back up more often than not. Jokic does this very well, but for a much different reason, he simply bully's his way under the goal to where the defender can't really get the rebound b/c Jokic is so big and so tall.


I think we still haven't seen anywhere near prime Zion from an athletic and even skill standpoint.
The thing that impressed me the most in the preseason was Zion's dribbling. He's been terrible thus far at that.
And i think if zion was 100%, he would have posterized Giannis twice the other night, instead of getting blocked.

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Grandmama could shoot from out, stepping into it on the run.
Zion cant.

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He developed that later on in his career when injuries diminished his athleticism. But coming into the league he really wasn’t a shooting threat.

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Larry Johnson was a killer too.

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Didn't have the hops Zion has

I wasn’t slighting Zion. But he is 6’6” without shoes. Barkley himself said he is 6’ 4.75”. Not only did Barkley using his quickness and bounce, he was a master at playing the angles of a shot. There is no reason Zion shouldn’t be a double digit rebounder in the future. But Zion’s current 12.9 reb per 100 possessions would’ve been Barkley’s worst rate of his 16 year career. Barkley topped out at 18.7 rebound per 100 and that was in to his 30s with houston. Dude was a freak

Dude said Barkley was no where near as athletic as Zion

What’s amazing about Zion is that he kind of loafs around, then hits a gear and looks like he’s faster than Westbrook.

Per 100 possessions nullifies the distorting effects of pace and allows one to more aptly compare players across different eras

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The Round Mound of Rebound was athletic. Zion is more so

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Zion is more athletic
Charles better athlete

I’m hoping Zion’s rebounding takes a linear path similar to Giannis. Freak has improved year over year and now has one of the best rebounding rates in the league

I see the comparison, but Chuck didn’t have quite the same athleticism, although better than most people expected

U missed my point. Perhaps it was presented poorly.

IF in one era, only 20% of shots were made while in a later era, 60% was made, the first era would have more rebounds.

IF in one era, shots were from near the goal, more big guys would get rebounds. If in a later era, more shots were from outside, perhaps the ball bounces further out and Gs get more rebounds.

I dunno if either case is true but it is plausible