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Coach O alluded to a defensive change in the offseason

Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:56 am
Prior to the start of the season Coach O stated that he wanted his DL to be more aggressive and attacking vs eating up blocks. That's counter to Aranda's style which uses the LBs as the playmakers to flow to the ball and shoot gaps provided by the DL.

When O lost out on recruiting Marvin Wilson he stated he wanted to go to a team that allowed DTs to be playmakers (not just the honey chicken). We've had a very good DL haul this class, but it could explode with a new philosophy.

More than one of our current DL have tweeted excitement with a possible switch to a 4-3.

Bottom line O wants an aggressive attacking D that creates pressure and turnovers and the DL plays downhill. He wanted the RPO spread and went out and got Brady and re-made the offense. For better or worse O has a vision on what he wants and he's finding the guys he wants to put that vision in place.

It's worked so far so I'm going to trust he knows what he's doing.
Posted by JackVincennes
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
4201 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:59 am to
This is a really good point.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:00 am to
I have no reason to doubt O’s decisions. Especially with the new AD behind him. With our athletes and a nice salary, O should be able to get whomever he wants. I think the bigger concern is bringing someone in who fits in with the other coaches, the players and fits the “one heart beat” environment.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37064 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:01 am to
This switch in DC's may have been something Orgeron and Aranda discussed prior to the season.
Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:02 am to
Aranda leaving is a good thing.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5972 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Aranda leaving is a good thing.



You can say youd prefer an attacking D-line or philosophy change and thats fine....
But we just lost a Top 5 DC.......so be careful what you wish for.....
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Aranda leaving is a good thing


Why? He is a great defensive mind. His philosophy is different, but it’s the defense that murdered Texas A&M, UGA, Oklahoma and Clemson consecutively. That wasn’t an accident.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4763 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:21 am to
I never thought I'd say this when he was first hired (especially after the Canada shite show), but I trust O to make the right hires....

He sees where his team is weak and looks for Coaches that can improve that spot or turn it into a strength. I have all the confidence that he'll pick someone that fits his vision and allow them to go do their job.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:23 am to
quote:

I have no reason to doubt O’s decisions. Especially with the new AD behind him. With our athletes and a nice salary, O should be able to get whomever he wants. I think the bigger concern is bringing someone in who fits in with the other coaches, the players and fits the “one heart beat” environment.

I still believe Alleva pushed Canada on O and the fact that he thought he could go around O to Alleva when he had problems validates that. I also think part of Alleva's reason for hiring O was he thought he could control him like Jerry Jones did Garrett.

Woodward will work with O to give him the support and resources to succeed. That includes hiring the guys he wants.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:27 am to
Then it won't be Richard. He's a Cover 3 Zone Carroll protege'.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Aranda leaving is a good thing.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Aranda has had some masterpiece defensive schemes and performances. There is always a risk with an overly aggressive D. When the defense finally got healthy at the latter part of this season they were extremely good and he has been very good with making adjustments.

Aranda is a great defensive mind. Sometimes you need to make a change, but Aranda is still one of the best.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:33 am to
He was a bum whose defenses underperformed.... Should have fired him with Miles
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Aranda leaving is a good thing.


If the next DC has any falloff, you don’t get to complain about it after all the shite you posted about Aranda.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:34 am to
Aranda leaving, IMO, is not a bad thing. He's a great DC but his scheme is different than what we are used to at LSU. And to be honest, he's gotten worse every year hes been here...

Total D Pass D Rushing D Scoring D
2016 LSU 5th 14th 10th 5th
2017 LSU 12th 21st 24th 14th
2018 LSU 30th 44th 38th 26th
2019 LSU 32nd 57th 24th 31st


Change is good in some cases.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:36 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:35 am to
We'll see what happens.
Posted by Grandmike
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2009
693 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:39 am to
When Orgeron was hired, Aranda was touted as "head coach in waiting". I suspect that once Orgeron established his creds as a long time coach at LSU, Aranda decided to move on.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:40 am
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21767 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:44 am to
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coachw
Aranda leaving is a good thing.


You’ve been awfully quiet lately, i guess with aranda leaving you can go back to talking shite again. You are one sad individual.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:46 am to
quote:

quote:
Aranda leaving is a good thing


Why? He is a great defensive mind.


Only thing I can come up with is that it’s a good thing in the sense that a school like Bama deals with this (losing coordinators and position coaches) nearly every year.

When you’re the best, everyone looking up at you wants a piece of that success in hopes of replicating it. When people are hiring your assistant coaches away, it’s because they did a good job.

His loss will definitely be felt, and he’ll be difficult to replace.

We should be able to get damn near anyone we want, and can make certain other schools give their own DCs a raise if we play it right.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2510 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:46 am to
I said the same and was bashed but know for a fact from reliable sources that there was friction between O and Aranda because of this. After Ole Miss O got pissed and start having more input to play calling on D.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:08 am to
That's already been proven false several times but people like to repeat it verbatim
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