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Bernie and warren: “K-12 is already free, why not college”

Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69465 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:30 pm
Bernie on the tv at some rally spewing this

Heard it said by warren in a debate few weeks ago

Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112749 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:34 pm to
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Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?


There shouldn't be. K-12 should be free market like college. Can't afford? Teach your kid at home or don't have one.
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?

Of course they don't .... But it's how you get more socialists... After all they own academia
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12571 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:36 pm to
Oh it’s free alright. We’ll just take this amount from your check...
Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:39 pm to
Yes and kids graduate high school with very little real world knowledge.

No critical thinking, but memorization.

No balancing checkbook, but x+y=z

No learning about taxes, except that we had a tea party back in the day
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80335 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:45 pm to
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K-12 is already free


Uh, no. It’s not.

These people are unreal.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:51 pm to
Is a high school diploma worth much anymore? There’s your answer
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2045 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:06 pm to
People can get a college education for free...most professors won’t mind if you come and sit in on classes and take notes...so what Bernie really wants is to raise everyone’s taxes significantly to give people pieces of paper
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:08 pm to
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hy not college

How much college

Two more years

Four more years?

Master's degree? PhD? As long as someone feels like going?
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
12004 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:11 pm to
In my county, the school district budget is larger than the county budget. That is not free
Posted by MaximillianPayne
Member since Sep 2019
335 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:15 pm to
I’m confused here as K-12 is certainly not free. Where do they think the money comes from to fund these public school districts?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29191 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?


I agree that free college would be a disaster, but I don’t think this is a good argument. What is so fundamentally different?

Teachers. Classrooms. Textbooks. All these things cost money. The government can tax us to death to get money.

And given the rising costs, much like with healthcare, if the GOP sits around and watches costs skyrocket out of control and claims “bUt MuH fReE mArKeT”, while a bunch of swamp creatures enrich themselves with student loan money... then people will vote in socialism.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61477 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:26 pm to
"Free" to Bernie and Lizzie = the government taxes you for the money to pay for it.


NOTHING IS FREE. K-12 is SUBSIDIZED by taxpayers.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2417 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:34 pm to
Serve your country and then go to school for "free."
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47183 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:39 pm to
We pay for K-12 via state and/or property taxes.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16098 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:51 pm to
Free stuff works in theory.

In reality, free stuff becomes lowest common denominator and not useful.

When the state pays for education it evolves to indoctrination.

We should pay for the schooling of our own kids beyond eighth grade.

By then, the people with academic interest and potential continue. Others can apprentice or go to vocational school.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26852 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:57 pm to
Ditch diggers do not need a 4 year degree
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:26 pm to
I met a real life true to heart bernie supported a few months ago. Dude was completely delusional.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Bernie and warren: “K-12 is already free, why not college”


I don’t think these two know what free means. They’re not free at all.
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