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re: May have found a missile part near crash site

Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:33 pm to
Removed the sketchy part of the title because it definitely looks like the tip of that SAM
Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:36 pm to
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Does it say ACME on it?


Stark Industries
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:38 pm to
Wish I had more upvotes.
Posted by TSLG
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:48 pm to
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Wish I had more upvotes.

You could have more if you really wanted more.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:49 pm to
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You aren’t trying to say that you think the Ruskies shot it down, are you?



No, Iran shot it down. Not hard. Y’all get so triggered any time the R word is even brought up.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:49 pm to
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No, Iran shot it down.
Glad we are on the same page then.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:50 pm to
Dumb thought but the shooting down of that plane really makes no sense at all. Planes come and go from that airport all the time and yet for some odd reason someone gets an itchy trigger finger and accidentally shoots a plane down? I’m not buying it... however, if you take a step back and look at the weak retaliation last night by Iran and their firing ballistic missiles into our bases, it might. Consider the scenario, Iran fires a few dozen missiles into the bases and goads the mad man DJT into responding with air strikes. Surprise surprise a commercial airliner gets downed in the confusion and everyone gets to blame their deaths on Trump and his recklessness. It’s a huge win for Iran
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:02 pm to
Notice the Brits, Canadians, Germans, etc are quiet about the whole thing. Even Trump didn’t mention it in his statement. And the Iranian foreign minister talking about not escalating anymore.

All these things points to a nervous Iranian air defense soldier who panicked and fired on the jet. Plus, Iran almost immediately said they didn’t want any help with the investigation.

So they know what happened, confessed to the Euros, and everyone stays quiet.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:07 pm to
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All these things points to a nervous Iranian air defense soldier who panicked and fired on the jet


I’m not buying that at all. You said all things point to a soldier panicking, so exactly what evidence is pointing that way?
Posted by Good Times
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:08 pm to
The black box belongs to the Ukraine.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Surprise surprise a commercial airliner gets downed in the confusion and everyone gets to blame their deaths on Trump and his recklessness.
But that isn’t happening.

DJT didn’t respond with air strikes.

Not even Iran is blaming the US for the downing of this plane.

No one but you has even eluded to that.
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It’s a huge win for Iran
You are the only one who thinks this.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:15 pm to
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But that isn’t happening.


Correct because while every taking head was freaking out and screaming omg it’s WW3, Trump is going to respond back like a mad man, he did the opposite. Bet your arse though that had he launched strikes on Iran last night, they’d have hung the deaths of those passengers around his neck
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:19 pm to
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Notice the Brits, Canadians, Germans, etc are quiet about the whole thing. Even Trump didn’t mention it in his statement. And the Iranian foreign minister talking about not escalating anymore.

All these things points to a nervous Iranian air defense soldier who panicked and fired on the jet. Plus, Iran almost immediately said they didn’t want any help with the investigation.

So they know what happened, confessed to the Euros, and everyone stays quiet.



Yep I agree
Posted by Pierre Delecto
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:21 pm to
But that is why Trump didn't do anything. He knows the future. He has a 100% record of not doing the wrong thing.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29224 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:21 pm to
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I’m not buying that at all. You said all things point to a soldier panicking, so exactly what evidence is pointing that way?



How else do you explain it? Why would Iran intentionally down an airliner flying out of Tehran? And they’re obviously trying to cover their tracks so this doesn’t get out.
Posted by Pierre Delecto
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:23 pm to
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How else do you explain it? Why would Iran intentionally down an airliner flying out of Tehran? And they’re obviously trying to cover their tracks so this doesn’t get out.



It would be interesting to get the actual "Names" of who was on the flight. That could be quite telling.
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:25 pm to
Come on Chiz. The tip of a SAM is the homing device. Warhead is the explosives and cutting or frag parts behind it.
Posted by 187undercover
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:27 pm to
I read where there were some interesting passengers on this flight worth looking into.

I'll see if I can copy and paste the two that stand out the most.

I love the spin though by both sides of this shindig kabuki theater. Whichever side you tend to lean on sounds so good, yet the truth is likely no where close to either side.

Glad there is no war.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:38 pm to
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How else do you explain it? Why would Iran intentionally down an airliner flying out of Tehran? And they’re obviously trying to cover their tracks so this doesn’t get out.


I just explained it. The narrative from the Dems and the media is Trump is a mad man, Trump is irrational, Trump is gonna get us into WW3 with Iran. Last night was it, Iran was avenging their great General with a couple dozen missiles and omg, omg!! Trump is gonna respond, he’s gonna get us all killed. Only he didn’t respond. He didn’t launch missiles and air strikes on targets around Iran. He didn’t flatten cultural sites either. However, if he had, that downed airliner would have been a massive blow politically, even though the Iranians shot it out of the sky. That’s all I’m saying. His enemies were lined up last night waiting for the opportunity to paint him as reckless.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:42 pm to
we need to run finger prints on the part, we can only assume Trump did this and he must prove his innocents.
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