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re: May have found a missile part near crash site
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:45 pm to mulletproof
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:45 pm to mulletproof
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Come on Chiz. The tip of a SAM is the homing device. Warhead is the explosives and cutting or frag parts behind it.
I didn’t realize it but you’re right. I just looked up diagrams and the warhead would definitely sit behind there which explains why this is still in tact.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:45 pm to mulletproof
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The tip of a SAM is the homing device. Warhead is the explosives and cutting or frag parts behind it.
I’m not a missile expert, so I’ll leave that to others. My point that got lost I think was why were missile parts found among the wreckage? If was hit by one, the point at which it was impacted and the actual crash site are a good distance from each other. Would you expect to find it among the wreckage?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:47 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:Oh, I think that's likely. They'd have tried to hang this airliner around his neck.
However, if he had, that downed airliner would have been a massive blow politically, even though the Iranians shot it out of the sky. That’s all I’m saying. His enemies were lined up last night waiting for the opportunity to paint him as reckless.
But if you're implying it was a ploy for public attention in the event we retaliated... I don't think so.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:49 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
It didn’t say it was smack dab in the epicenter of it. The debris field I’m sure is very large, it’s simply in that.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:53 pm to mulletproof
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Come on Chiz. The tip of a SAM is the homing device. Warhead is the explosives and cutting or frag parts behind it.
Could you disable the explosives in midflight, if you saw that it was headed to a bad target?
I was supposed to Go to The Hawk Missile School back in the day, but I kept getting bumped out. I am really interested in this stuff.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:56 pm to Scoob
I didn't realize that there were 82 Iranian passengers aboard. Sorta complicates my thinking on it.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:56 pm to auggie
Hillary did it! Usually a safe assumption!
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:58 pm to Scoob
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But if you're implying it was a ploy for public attention in the event we retaliated... I don't think so
I’m more implying that just like the talking heads and the Dems were absolutely sure an out of control Trump was going to respond in force last night, I think the Iranians were convinced he was going to respond as well. So why not target an airliner and watch the world blame Trump for their deaths because of his recklessness? And for anyone that doesn’t think they’d intentionally kill 200 people, the vast majority being Iranian, just keep in mind that they killed 1200 protestors not long ago, and didn’t bat an eye.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:00 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Truth.
That conspiracy theory does make some logical sense.
That conspiracy theory does make some logical sense.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:10 pm to Scruffy
I think it might also explain why Iran is apparently not letting other countries in to investigate the crash. How are they gonna explain downing a commercial airliner with a missile when no hostile military operations took place inside Iran last night?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:10 pm to Scruffy
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That conspiracy theory does make some logical sense.
It's just conspiratorial,(barely) beyond what I am willing to accept is possible right now. I reiterate" barely".
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:29 pm to auggie
the Best question, why were they taking off at that time, I guess err body on that plane was ready to get the hell out of Iran
None of this makes sense
None of this makes sense
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:35 pm to AUX3
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the Best question, why were they taking off at that time,
That's the first question that I asked on this board last night, and it is the most obvious one. And most unexplainable. I could understand thinking that you might want to get your plane out of there, but not with passengers on it.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:35 pm to AUX3
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the Best question, why were they taking off at that time, I guess err body on that plane was ready to get the hell out of Iran
I was reading a tweet where this guys compared that flight from the past several days and it left at about the same time. He then compared takeoff speed and ascent rate and I think yesterday the ascent rate was a little fast but other than that normal flight that they routinely fly.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:43 pm to auggie
Had I been a passenger on that plane I'd have been like, naw I'll pass. BUT then again, what next? Hanging around Tehran for a spell? Not necessarily a good alternative for those from other countries itself. That's maybe not even an attractive option for some Iranians themselves.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:54 pm to davyjones
People mess themselves up with rash decisions everyday I guess. They run red lights, so they aren't late for work, or late to meetings or to pick the kids up from school.
It's not unusual for them to pay for it some way. This was a big one though. Plane..missiles, war, what do I do?
It's not unusual for them to pay for it some way. This was a big one though. Plane..missiles, war, what do I do?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:57 pm to davyjones
I imagine those people were trying to get out before we started shooting back
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:01 pm to DavidTheGnome
Most random thing was the plane was inspected and passed on the 6th of January... like a 2 day gap with the time difference?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:04 pm to GnashRebel
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I imagine those people were trying to get out before we started shooting back
Ok, but we never did any shooting, The Iranians, however, who had control over that airport, Knew that they were going to do some shooting.
Why was the plane allowed to fly, full of passengers?
I hate the term " no brainer" but, shutting down commercial air traffic in that situation, comes pretty damn close to that definition.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:18 pm to auggie
I wasn’t blaming anyone. It was an accident in a really hairy situation. More sad than anything.
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