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Climate change policy is serious and is solely about the climate

Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:46 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
423791 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:46 am
The Nation: If we want to keep cities safe in the face of climate change, we need to seriously question the ideal of private homeownership.

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Fires have dominated the California news cycle in the past, as the dry season dragged into October and the Santa Ana winds started to blow. But this fall seemed different. In the wake of November 2018’s Camp Fire—the deadliest, most destructive fire in the state’s history, killing at least 85 people—we entered what might be considered a year of climate change awareness, bookended by the news that we may only have a dozen years to contain global warming and the Global Climate Strike this September. News accounts about wildfires have taken on even greater urgency. As many commentators have noted, the changing climate and ongoing deficiencies in the regulation and management of utility companies present a new, dreadful normal.


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But few are discussing one key aspect of California’s crisis: Yes, climate change intensifies the fires—but the ways in which we plan and develop our cities makes them even more destructive. The growth of urban regions in the second half of the 20th century has been dominated by economic development, aspirations of home ownership, and belief in the importance of private property. Cities and towns have expanded in increasingly disperse fashion, fueled by cheap energy. Infrastructure has been built, deregulated, and privatized, extending services in more and more tenuous and fragile ways. Our ideas about what success, comfort, home, and family should look like are so ingrained, it’s hard for us to see how they could be reinforcing the very conditions that put us at such grave risk.


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There are other options, in theory: Rental housing serves many cities around the world well, although we should be wary about perpetuating the power of landlords in this country without delinking ownership from wealth creation. There has been resurgent interest in government-planned and -built public housing, including recent legislation proposed by Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Bernie Sanders that would shore up and invigorate the federal system. The Green New Deal invokes prior eras of government intervention, lending itself to revitalized thinking about the social value of public goods.

There is also the potential for new or reconstituted forms of cooperative housing. In New York City, cooperative apartment buildings have long been a norm. These kinds of ownership structures have often been deprioritized in federal housing subsidy programs and discouraged by standard lending practices in many regions. It is, by regulatory design, hard to do anything not consistent with the status quo. Community land trusts—nonprofit, community-based land ownership, with housing units that are typically leased in perpetual affordable status—are a promising model. There are now more than 240 community land trusts in the United States, and they are increasingly part of the consideration for those pursuing a more affordable and less market-reliant alternative. (Bernie Sanders, as mayor of Burlington, Vermont, was an early champion of the idea.) The idea of cooperative living—in both financial and social terms—needs room to breathe and grow.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89635 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:47 am to
Global Marxism movement disguised as environmentalism is still Marxist.

Shocked, I tell ya.
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:47 am to
these people are seriously wanting to eat some lead and not from a paint can either
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9414 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:52 am to
Make no mistake. This is exactly what the leftists (communists) want for you and your family:



Everyone in old Soviet style apartment blocks.

"Utopia" is "equal misery for everyone" to the left.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261771 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:52 am to
CC is just being used as a Trojan horse by marxists.

"The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution."
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:53 am to
Without property rights we don't have an economy or any semblance of a free society


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:00 am to
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This ideological geography keeps playing out in devastating and contradictory ways. Climate change generally impacts the poorest and most vulnerable people first. In Los Angeles, we see the impacts of increased heat on homeless people, the elderly, and the very young; in New York, some public housing residents must still rely on temporary boilers seven years after Hurricane Sandy. But in the Saddleridge Fire, the homes at risk were not those of residents pushed beyond the urban fringe.


This is just sillyness

Poor people will always have it tougher, with or without any sort of climate change.

And the temperature in L.A. is pretty comfortable. I doubt the homeless are worried about getting too hot in L.A. of all places.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:02 am to
These people are begging for a helicopter ride.

Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68269 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:05 am to
So they want to have the right to housing, but not the right to own property?

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12261 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:07 am to
Why is taking California so long to fall off and sink in the damn ocean?

If they want government intervention then I say start with the Federal government taking over California. The melt from Trump ending their stupid laws would be epic.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18511 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:27 am to
I own, OWN, two houses and will not be cowed into thinking renting is the replacement for ownership.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35127 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:28 am to
The California fires have way more to do with them refusing to have controlled burns than muh private housing.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25403 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:28 am to
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If we want to keep cities safe in the face of climate change, we need to seriously question the ideal of private homeownership.


Ridiculous.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15471 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:33 am to
This is the second left wing article suggesting we shouldn’t live in single family homes in the last 7 days. (The first in the daily caller discussed some proposed law by a nutbag in VA that wants to ban single family zoning because climate change). They also are suggesting that we have more abortions bc it’s better for the environment. Why do all their solutions to climate change involve me giving them my life, liberty or property??? They think they know what to do better with it but they can’t even tell me when or where a hurricane will hit.

These people are totalitarian wackos.

They want us only have the correct kind of babies, born to the correct people, who live in the correct places. Everyone else can basically die bc they aren’t worthy to live on this earth.

Damn each and every one of these tyrants to the Eutopian hell they want everyone else to live in.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5355 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:06 am to
California: How can we prevent and mitigate wildfire damage?

Logical Person: Well, you could dam up some rivers to make lakes, making water more plentiful and available. You could also perform controlled burns to get rid of undergrowth which astronomically fuels wildfires.

California:



Let's see if we can get 50 people to live in a 1200 sq ft home. . .
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 11:08 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56503 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:26 pm to
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and belief in the importance of private property.
How obvious does it have to be?
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Infrastructure has been built, deregulated, and privatized,
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:34 pm to
I’ve said it another thread that there is no doubt in my mind that before 2030 that the abolishment of private home and land ownership will be official democrat party policy.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18154 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:39 pm to
My dad used to call the environmentalists watermelons.

Green on the outside.
Red on the inside.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3284 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:39 pm to
Also the hidden gem of cheap available energy being the enemy too. True colors all over the place.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 1:08 pm to
The people pushing that propaganda need to eat a bullet.
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