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re: In other news, Congress just raised the age limit for buying tobacco to 21
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:06 pm to slackster
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:06 pm to slackster
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For those keeping track, an 18 year old can vote, sign contracts including loans, and join the military, but they're not trusted enough to decide whether or not to drink or smoke.
Age limits never followed any logic. A 16 year old can drive and work. So we trust a 16 year old behind the wheel of a 6000 lb jacked up super duty, but he just better not dip.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When the government is paying for the health effects that tobacco and alcohol consumption causes, I think it should have a say in what is consumed. There is no reason the govt should sit ildly by and watch Medicaid-recipients engage in eating habits that vastly increase risk of diabetes, heart disease, and cancer
What sort of practical, real world impact do you think this will have on Medicaid/Medicare costs?
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:10 pm to Korkstand
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s this the part where everybody pretends that other developed nations with universal healthcare / single-payer / etc. provide shite service, or that there is some other explanation for why our health care costs are so much higher? And then ask what we can do about our skyrocketing premiums?
My bad. I thought you had an actual plan or knowledge of how we can reduce smoking health issues.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:10 pm to slackster
quote:The only one of those things 18 year olds should be allowed to do is enlist. Hell, one of the main reasons we’re stuck having this student loan forgiveness debate in this country is because 18 year olds are taking bad loans And can’t understand the consequences of those loans.
For those keeping track, an 18 year old can vote, sign contracts including loans, and join the military, but they're not trusted enough to decide whether or not to drink or smoke
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:10 pm to slackster
Adult age should be 25. Anyone younger than that is fricking stupid.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:12 pm to StickyFingaz
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It's almost 2020, no one should be using tobacco anymore.
Why?
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:13 pm to tketaco
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Anyone younger than that is fricking stupid.
Majority of people older than that are stupid too. Voting should have an IQ test
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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25 is the correct number
I can live with that
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:20 pm to tigerinthebueche
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can enlist... can't drink or smoke.
quote:When did that change? I enlisted and still couldn't legally drink until I was 21 (stateside anyways).
go enlist and you can do both.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:don’t complain when kids don’t want to grow up. We don’t let them now
25 is the correct number
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:26 pm to StickyFingaz
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No... I use tobacco, but unfortunately nicotine is the most addictive chemical on the planet, and it's being sold to kids.
It's being sold to adults, retard
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:32 pm to northshorebamaman
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I enlisted and still couldn't legally drink until I was 21
I understood that (in Louisiana, anyway) a person under 21 possessing military ID could legally drink in a bar. But I could certainly be wrong.
I tuned 18 before they raised the age to 21, so I was grandfathered in
Now I just want to get you youngins off the road so my old drunk arse can get home without one of us taking the other out.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:33 pm to chalmetteowl
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don’t complain when kids don’t want to grow up. We don’t let them now
Thank you
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:33 pm to upgrayedd
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It's being sold to adults, retard
Well that escalated quickly... all I'm trying to say is that raising the age to 21 for tobacco is not a bad thing. Kids turning 18 are not an adult to me. I remember what I was like when I turned 18 and moving out right when I graduated HS. I wasn't making the best decisions. Arbitrarily marking the 18th birthday as the day a kid becomes a responsible adult is laughable. Especially when dealing with something as addictive as nicotine.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:37 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Hell, one of the main reasons we’re stuck having this student loan forgiveness debate in this country is because 18 year olds are taking bad loans And can’t understand the consequences of those loans.
Eh, they're being told by other clueless children (liberal arts professors) that it's a good investment. The student loan debacle is just another example of the government "protecting people" like this stupid arse law.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:There might be a few state and local laws allowing for it but don't get busted by your unit. I caught two article 15's drinking underage.
I understood that (in Louisiana, anyway) a person under 21 possessing military ID could legally drink in a bar. But I could certainly be wrong.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:39 pm to StickyFingaz
Ok, well make everything 21 then. None of this you're kind of an adult but not really bullshite. That's why it infuriates me to watch politicians make 21 the legal age for tobacco but want to lower the voting age to 16
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:40 pm to slackster
ATC finna have a hiring spree baws.
Gonna need a lot more of those SOBs to catch the cashiers at stores not checking ID's on smokes now....and to catch the handoffs of joes from the over 21 buyer to the under 21 consumer in the parking lot.
Gonna need a lot more of those SOBs to catch the cashiers at stores not checking ID's on smokes now....and to catch the handoffs of joes from the over 21 buyer to the under 21 consumer in the parking lot.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:43 pm to upgrayedd
That's not really the argument here, but I will say I don't think the voting age will ever be lowered. I think 18 is a good number for voting and court. 18 year olds are definitely not as informed, but like it or not they are being affected by these elections. Prior to 18 elections are more affecting your parents directly than you as a minor.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:44 pm to StickyFingaz
quote:As is arbitrarily marking the 21st birthday as the day a kid becomes a responsible adult. shite, I was probably even more irresponsible at 21. When I was 18 I was stupid and naive. When I was 21 I was stupid, naive, and confident.
Arbitrarily marking the 18th birthday as the day a kid becomes a responsible adult is laughable.
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